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Old 11-01-2007, 01:24 AM
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I would go with that if we were free to travel on the common way in our automobile just by not applying for a license (like one used to) but one will still get kidnapped/arrested and their vehicle stolen/impounded.

The application is meant to provide them an address and other information to serve you papers/find you. Otherwise one wouldn't need to give an address and one could just pick up their lisence at the local orifice/office.
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Old 11-01-2007, 06:17 AM
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I would go with that if we were free to travel on the common way in our automobile just by not applying for a license (like one used to) but one will still get kidnapped/arrested and their vehicle stolen/impounded.

Not necessarily. There are ways to protect the means of travel. I speak from experience.

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The application is meant to provide them an address and other information to serve you papers/find you.

Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.


χάραγμα
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From the same as G5482; a scratch or etching, that is, stamp (as a badge of servitude), or sculptured figure (statue): - graven, mark.

Most people do not know that they carry around not just one, but many badges of servitude [serfitude].

DRIVER LICENSE, VOTER REGISTRATION, BERTH CERTIFICATE, SSN, and the list goes on.
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Old 11-01-2007, 06:49 AM
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You all have heard about signing the license "dba" the artifice. So the State swapped the big digital pads out for tiny ones - and whenever a revenue officer sees one signed that way, he takes it back without explanation.

So simply sign your new license with your true name. Here anyway (State of Colorado) they mail it to you and you may never see it in the suggested ten days. That is the other thing they did here.

The point is that when you hand it to a police officer you explain That is not my name. I am not giving that card to you for Identification Purposes. Make it very clear that you are only giving him the license for competency - evidence you are competent - that you have passed the tests.

Give him a Certificate of Search on your true name for Identification.

For instance I just heard last night that you cannot pay utilities in cash at the Building without a bill in hand or a SSN.

There is nothing to keep the officer from lying on the Witness Stand later about what you said... "I do not recall you saying anything about that." - - "I do not recall anything about a Certificate of Search." But if you are fearful enough that you are getting benefits from the Department of Revenue which are strictly voluntary, even though you know better, do what you can to make the lying their testimony - not yours.


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It is worth noting that the fealty to the Pope, which you cited for its explicit mention of the Templar abbey in Dover, is the legal basis for the invalidation of the Magna Carta after it was sealed at Runnymede.
During discussion about the Treaty of 1213 and the Magna Charta (1215).

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Old 11-01-2007, 11:03 AM
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So simply sign your new license with your true name.

If one possessess a license, it is not their license. The license belongs to the issuer.

What a DRIVER LICENSE is, is a benefit from the state (issuer).

And possessing one is prima facie evidence that you are beneficiary to the trust, and that you are the "person" on the face of the license, all claims to the contrary notwithstanding.




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For instance I just heard last night that you cannot pay utilities in cash at the Building without a bill in hand or a SSN.

Whoever told you this lacks the necessary understanding or education, that is all. Nothing is impossible with YHVH. Period.

It is a proven fact that utilities can be set up through corporations or other legal fictions with EIN numbers.
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Old 11-01-2007, 03:17 PM
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If one possessess a license, it is not their license. The license belongs to the issuer.

What a DRIVER LICENSE is, is a benefit from the state (issuer).

And possessing one is prima facie evidence that you are beneficiary to the trust, and that you are the "person" on the face of the license, all claims to the contrary notwithstanding.






Whoever told you this lacks the necessary understanding or education, that is all. Nothing is impossible with YHVH. Period.

It is a proven fact that utilities can be set up through corporations or other legal fictions with EIN numbers.


I think your arrogance is unwarranted.

First it is obvious that the Driver License belongs to the State in that the police officer simply takes it back.

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So the State swapped the big digital pads out for tiny ones - and whenever a revenue officer sees one signed that way, he takes it back without explanation.

You are new here and I was speaking to the members who for the most part understand that.


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Whoever told you this lacks the necessary understanding or education, that is all. Nothing is impossible with YHVH. Period.

Indeed, she and her husband revere YHVH. But you have no solution. You are incorrect to consider any distinction between a SSN and an EIN. What you missed in your eagerness to be condescending it that the clerk at the Utilities is obligated to accept FRNs as legal tender.

There is no law that one have a SSN or EIN or TIN or whatever to discharge the obligation and continue to have heat and water etc. So I suggest you leave drafting remedy to people who know about it.



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It is worth noting that the fealty to the Pope, which you cited for its explicit mention of the Templar abbey in Dover, is the legal basis for the invalidation of the Magna Carta after it was sealed at Runnymede.
During discussion about the Treaty of 1213 and the Magna Charta (1215).

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/medieval/magframe.htm
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/john1a.html
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Old 11-01-2007, 05:45 PM
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I think your arrogance is unwarranted.

My apologies. I was being strongly assertive, but did not intend a personal attack or an arrogant attitude.



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You are new here and I was speaking to the members who for the most part understand that.

Your unreliable presumption is purely a matter of perspective.


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Indeed, she and her husband revere YHVH. But you have no solution.

I never claimed to have any solution, save and except for the Word of YHVH. Psalm 121:8 and Acts 17:28, which are paramount law.

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You are incorrect to consider any distinction between a SSN and an EIN. What you missed in your eagerness to be condescending it that the clerk at the Utilities is obligated to accept FRNs as legal tender.

Again, I meant no personal offense. My apologies again if it seemed condescending. And, I agree that a SSN and an EIN are both 9-digit slave numbers. And I agree that the clerk is obligated to accept FRNs as legal tender.


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There is no law that one have a SSN or EIN or TIN or whatever to discharge the obligation and continue to have heat and water etc.

You may indeed be correct, but there is a policy of the utility company to obtain a 9 digit number before setting up an account. If you have evidence that disproves this, I encourage you to present it.

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So I suggest you leave drafting remedy to people who know about it.

By all means, have at it. I know nothing about drafting remedy, except that my remedy is in the Word of YHVH. I am powerless without YHVH.

My only expertise is obtaining remedy.

And my LOR (that you drafted) only taught me who I am, and failed to save my home.

Hmmmm.

Maybe my realization of who I really am, in and of itself, is remedy.
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Old 11-02-2007, 03:37 AM
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components of remedy

Crosstalk;

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In true equity, yes. I agree that no contract boils over into other contracts but ultimately, with any contract (ie tax, SS, DL, FRN's) a 'person' is contracting as an agent of the Treasury. FOr instance, it stands to reason that if you opt out of income tax, but you still expect to receive benefits of, say, social security, you are gonna get slammed. Or for instance, if you claim to have no tax obligation, but you register to vote, you are screwed.



I think you need to be fluid across the board. You have taken the biggest steps in eliminating your DOB, Birth Certificate and SS#. I would assume you also don't have a license to drive, or pay into social security, vote or claim taxpayer status.



This is certainly the way to go but it must be made clear that in rescinding these contracts, we must also refuse any claim to all corp/gov benefits.





I recall that Supreme Case is cited in the Article in my video. I looked and sure enough...



The SS Card itself is representative of a trust formed by the Person holding the card. I have been in an intersting squabble demonstrating this ultimatum of perspectives.



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For instance I just heard last night that you cannot pay utilities in cash at the Building without a bill in hand or a SSN.



Let's call the SSN they already have on register at the Utilities Company a noun. A Fact. What they are after, in my comment is a verb. They require a confirmation of the Fact... You cannot just say, Use the SSN on the account. They will say, Say it. And you cannot say, No need for me to say it - I already said it when I started Utilities at that address.



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You are incorrect to consider any distinction between a SSN and an EIN. What you missed in your eagerness to be condescending it that the clerk at the Utilities is obligated to accept FRNs as legal tender.



Again, I meant no personal offense. My apologies again if it seemed condescending. And, I agree that a SSN and an EIN are both 9-digit slave numbers. And I agree that the clerk is obligated to accept FRNs as legal tender.





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There is no law that one have a SSN or EIN or TIN or whatever to discharge the obligation and continue to have heat and water etc.


You may indeed be correct, but there is a policy of the utility company to obtain a 9 digit number before setting up an account. If you have evidence that disproves this, I encourage you to present it.



Although the other member there is doing all he or she can to tread politely, I think you can see they are missing my point.



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And, I agree that a SSN and an EIN are both 9-digit slave numbers.



To the point where they think I am saying that the # enslaves. The beauty of trusts is that they are not formed by the Trustee; they are formed by the Creator. If there is no benefit - then do not appear as beneficiary.



The comment in the restaurant originated with the proposition about pulling the mailbox. Get rid of it. Is it a benefit? I define the model that the proceedings of the US district court for international actions in law have moved into the mailbox as an extension of the district courthouse. That model works well.



It turns out that maybe this member there has filed the Libel of Review in admiralty.



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And my LOR (that you drafted) only taught me who I am, and failed to save my home.

Hmmmm.

Maybe my realization of who I really am, in and of itself, is remedy.



But I do not know. There maybe hundreds of people drafting remedy for themselves off the template. This one has one part of the remedy.



I went to the SSA and demanded they destroy or otherwise rescind my SSN. They don't do that. The fellow was courteous enough to explain how to get rid of it myself though - Quit saying it; Quit writing it down.



Back to my point about the verb at the Utilities counter. They make you volunteer all over again for subjugation to the IRC - either you appear by tearing open the process in the expeditious USDC the mailbox or you have to say it out loud in order to pay up even in cash in advance.





Conditioning.



So my advice was simply call the sheriff/security guard who stands around all Masonic with the folded arms to take a report. They are dishonoring legal tender issued by the Fed and defined by Congress and against the "public policy" of HJR-192. Grab that witness as your witness. There is no law requiring you have a SSN and you have a right to be warm as you can pay for by the sweat of your brow! [That's an inadvertent pun!!]





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It is worth noting that the fealty to the Pope, which you cited for its explicit mention of the Templar abbey in Dover, is the legal basis for the invalidation of the Magna Carta after it was sealed at Runnymede.
During discussion about the Treaty of 1213 and the Magna Charta (1215).

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/medieval/magframe.htm
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/john1a.html

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If I may be so bold to throw a wrench in the mechanism about voting being a crime. Allow me to interject something that is confusing me.

First allow me to break the section into subsections. (A, B, etc.)

(A) Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed.

(B)But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.

If one were to read subsection (B) we notice that it is referring to how the representatives are apportioned to the states, when the right to vote is denied to any male inhabitants, 21 years of age.

What confusing me is how does voting equate to committing a crime if one was not ,first, denied the right to vote because they participated in a rebellion or a crime?

If my understanding of the 2nd section of the 14th amendment is correct, the people at pacinlaw.org jumped the gun when they wrote an article concerning the aforementioned amendment and subsequent section.

Any clarification will be appreciated.
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What confusing me is how does voting equate to committing a crime if one was not ,first, denied the right to vote because they participated in a rebellion or a crime?

The right to vote is denied to people who are NOT U.S. Ctiizens w/ in the defacto 14th Amendment body politic and who have competent proof that they are not within such body, but within one of the dejure states' bodies politic.

even w/o sec 2 of the 14th, you are commiting a crime by voting, in that the defacto body politic was set up by the constituionally repugnant reconstruction acts

By participating in it (i.e voting for even Ron Paul), you are rebelling against your dejure state body polltic which was usurped
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