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Old 08-17-2008, 05:23 PM
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Why be a State national?

http://atgpress.com/inform/gov075.htm

The information in the above link is one reason why I, a man, will never claim to be a state national or any other national. I was created a man and nothing more. Claiming to be a state national is nothing more than giving the state, whether "organic" or not, jurisdiction over my body. My Creator is the only one with jurisdiction over me and no man or government can can claim otherwise.
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Old 08-17-2008, 05:51 PM
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Yup, and the apostle Paul sure didn't know what he was doing when he claimed his Roman Status in the book of acts.

Yeshuah should've advised him to use your post above instead

Still waiting for you to post something having to do with remedy. Post some links to some posts/threads of yours in which you contribute remedies in law that people can directly apply; otherwise it will be easily construed that you are another unproductive member here who just like to complain about other people
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Old 08-17-2008, 06:01 PM
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http://atgpress.com/inform/gov075.htm

The information in the above link is one reason why I, a man, will never claim to be a state national or any other national. I was created a man and nothing more. Claiming to be a state national is nothing more than giving the state, whether "organic" or not, jurisdiction over my body. My Creator is the only one with jurisdiction over me and no man or government can can claim otherwise.

Anyone can claim jurisdiction over you, but may they claim jurisdiction over you? Do you have the ability, weapons or force that may prevent them from having jurisdiction over you?

Simple concepts but they are profound.
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Old 08-17-2008, 06:02 PM
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Cool, I get to do Dorkenbutt's 50 questions technique !

In the book of Acts, did the Apostle Paul claim what you did to get out of trouble or did he claim his Roman Status ?
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Old 08-17-2008, 06:03 PM
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God's law is all I need. I am a child of His, not some created State. Now if you can come up with something better, then I am all ears. You see Weis, it matters not what man can do to me. It does matter what God can do. I hear all the attorn-eys talk about how only those that matter (the courts, judges, etc.) count (LOL). Try telling that to the One that really matters.

Like I said LB Bork is just a man. He is not God and does not have all the answers. When you can show me that God's Law is inferior to man's and LB has better answers than God, then come talk to me. Until that happens (which will be never) there is nothing to discuss.
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Old 08-17-2008, 06:44 PM
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Weis, perhaps you should read this about Paul. Are you absolutely sure he was claiming Roman citizenship?
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Old 08-17-2008, 10:25 PM
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yup. good article, however, you still have not shown anyone any remedy or procedures on this forum

You had to start a muckraking thread instead just like a good Christian would do, huh?

Please provide Chapter and verse out of the Bible to show how LB's process is antithetical to Scripture

Since you like to claim how Christian you are

Here's some more questions

1. What is exactly The Gospel by which one can be saved?

2. When was the last time you went out of your way to share that Gospel w/ Unbelievers?

3. How often do you serve such as feeding the hungry, helping the sick, etc . . . ?
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Old 08-18-2008, 05:25 AM
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yup. good article, however, you still have not shown anyone any remedy or procedures on this forum

You had to start a muckraking thread instead just like a good Christian would do, huh?

Please provide Chapter and verse out of the Bible to show how LB's process is antithetical to Scripture

Since you like to claim how Christian you are

Here's some more questions

1. What is exactly The Gospel by which one can be saved?

2. When was the last time you went out of your way to share that Gospel w/ Unbelievers?

3. How often do you serve such as feeding the hungry, helping the sick, etc . . . ?

First off, like I said claiming to be a state national is not what I would claim. I am simply a child of the living God and that is supported by Scripture. I have been adopted into the family of God as a result of my accepting His Son as my personal Savior and Lord. IMHO, that is all one needs and then it is a matter of following Joshua 1:8.

1. As far as being saved, all one need read is the book of John 3:3 and also Ephesians 2:8-9. I do not need to quote them as I am sure you know what they say.

2. I make it a habit of going out every Monday night with a group of believers and we go door to door. I have also shared on line as well. Does that somehow make me better than someone else? God forbid!!!

3. Not as often as I like, but I do share food with those that I can when I can.

You accuse me of muckraking, all because I ask questions. How is asking questions to show the fraud somehow muckraking? You think Jesus would allow the attorn-eys on this site to continue in their deception or would He show them up for what they really are?

As far as LB is concerned, I have nothing personal against him. I just do not like people charging others that cannot afford to PAY for help, especially when they have been racked over the coals by a lying thieving so-called government agency.

How much of a blessing do you think LB would receive if he helped those that need it most without charge? What does scripture say about those that are in need (Matthew 5:42)? See also 1 John 3:17.

I, personally, do not need LB, but there may be some that believe they do. Is it right for LB to hold back help to those that need it but cannot afford to PAY him? Think about that Weis.
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Old 08-18-2008, 05:31 AM
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Forgot on important thing. One needs to know they are a sinner first. So Romans 3:23 is a good place to start.
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Old 08-18-2008, 05:58 AM
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Cool, sounds like you are walking the walk

BTW, the Gospel of Grace is found in 1 Cor 15:1-4, which is the only Gospel by one can be saved in this dispensation of grace

The Gospel of The Kingdom was exclusively for the Jews and no one can be saved by that Gospel these days

Anyway, my suspicions were correct

You have sour grapes because you don't want to pay someone for their hard work

I guess a church outfit is wrong for accepting donations, and LB doesn't fit into what your personal definition of ministry is

Still waiting for some verses which demonstrate that The Nationality Correction process is antithetical to scripture
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