American National, sovereign state Citizen, or Sui Juris freeman?

[Raptor13x]

I'm starting the process of freeing myself from the US Citizen garbage, and I've been reading through Johnny Liberty's "Sovereign American's Handbook", and I havent been able to find a really good definition of the three forms of good citizenship. What exactly do American National, sovereign state Citizen, and Sui Juris freeman mean in a legal sense, what are the differences, and which should I become?



Thanks, and glad to finally see a group of people who actually care about REAL freedom!

[weishaupt1776]

[color=black][b]Welcome, Raptor13x. We're gonna tag you as R13x for now on. Anyway it's not which one you should become, but it's a matter of you declaring that you are a flesh & blood Sovereign Citizen who owes allegiance to the Common Law of the Land & not Statutory Law.

I can see where your getting at in that you might want some type of official filing/documentation, etc. . . in which you can get flagged in the DoC's mainframe so that you're not messed with, but the sad truth is all of the best & even logical & reasonable approaches are being run roughshod by BB(Big brother). The good news is that BB has the onus of proving that you are a U.S. Citizen.

[Raptor13x]

Thanks for the welcome



I've been putting quite a bit of time into typing up all the affidavits and whatnot explained in Johnny Liberty's book... anybody know how effective they all are? They look really good and well written to me. I cannot WAIT to get all this done, the police are driving me NUTS! I literally cant go 5 minutes without seeing a cop on the roads, and a week without being tailed. I've never gone 6 months since I got my license between being pulled over and getting a ticket. I mean I have zero accidents, I've had lots of professional car control training, but oh dear, I'm such a hazard to society for driving 10mph over the posted limit Its to the point of absolute absurdity.



Anyways.. something must be done to stop the madness. Reclaiming my sovereignty is the first step, then I'm helping as many people as I can reclaim theirs. How do people live their whole lives with such tyranny? I'm only 22 years old and I cant stand another moment of it.



Oh well, back to work with these affidavits... from what I've browsed around and read so far, you guys are awesome.

[seeker]

Raptor -- WELCOME! learn now so you can be a force for liberty in the future!

Choose your path and make it happen!



Seeker

[EnSabahNur]

A Sovereign is diifferent from a Natural-person. Sovereign's are just what it means, Sovereign...Full rights and answerable ONLY to the creator.

A Natural-person retains all the same rights but is governed to the extent that he/she has voluntarily consented to be regulated by Government. Meaning you are still a member of "Society" and can enjoy the benefits (Healthcare) but decide what you will, and will not be regulated by government on.



But why classify yourself? If anyone ever asks, just say you are a "Full liability, free-willed, living man, with a soul."



That does not confine you to a "Label" and certainly says what you are are, and are NOT.



In fact if you were ever pulled over by Police, the first thing I say when asked for anything by them is :



"For the record, I am a full liability, free-willed, living man, with a soul.....do you have a claim against me........"



If they still proceed it is at their own risk now as you just removed any presumed "Jurisdiction".

[KaosTheory]

To me, it's more important to understand what Sui Juris means and how it applies to you than to understand what kind of citizen you are. Your citizenship is important but not being bound by any unrevealed contracts is more important. Your affidavits should include statements like: I have no knowledge of any contracts to which I am a party that impair my right to "whatever activity"



The powers that be enslave you mainly by getting your consent without you realizing it. You need to learn the little games that they are playing to get you to consent to their various fraud games.



"Welcome.......to the real world"



KT

[Raptor13x]

Originally Posted by EnSabahNur

But why classify yourself? If anyone ever asks, just say you are a "Full liability, free-willed, living man, with a soul."



That does not confine you to a "Label" and certainly says what you are are, and are NOT.



In fact if you were ever pulled over by Police, the first thing I say when asked for anything by them is :



"For the record, I am a full liability, free-willed, living man, with a soul.....do you have a claim against me........"



If they still proceed it is at their own risk now as you just removed any presumed "Jurisdiction".

A bit long-winded, but good How about "For the record, I am a sovereign American, and in no way under the jurisdiction of the laws governing US Citizens. Do you have a claim against me?"

[weishaupt1776]

[color=black][b]Just got my refusal today from the Department of State to file my Declaration of Domicile as a Domiciled Florida Republic Citizen.

[KaosTheory]

Weis,



That refusal might be a good thing. What is the definition of domicile?

[weishaupt1776]

[color=black][b]To the contrary, the implication of their response proves that the Secretary of State doesn't handle citizenship issues.