Certificate of Search

[dorkenbutt]

Originally Posted by fulltitle

Without Prejudice.

Interesting how he puts 'quotes' around the word 'your'.

If your birth certificate was issued by STATE OF MONTANA, and its yours perhaps you are the State of Montana. A Social Security Card *is* a birth certificate and it says that its property of the SSA and if its yours then you must be the SSA. Talking with people who cant see outside the glass menagerie is perhaps like talking to Mickey Mouse about how the cartoon world is an illusion.

The names on a typical STATE issued birth certificate are the names of personae (personas).

Funny how we have to pay for something that is ours, huh? If the Birth Certificate were mine, the STATE would not have it in its possession? Anyone that would use a copy of a Birth Certificate they had to pay for to prove they are a "US citizen" is a fool. Gee, what does that make lawpuppy? A fool? I could not resist. I'm having sooo much fun. LOL!!!

[David Merrill]

One time in the ER a cop tried telling me I have to have a government-issued ID card on me at all times by law. That was pretty funny considering he was not offering to pay for one for me.

[mrg]

Originally Posted by mertensv16

...dictate the law...

Funny how that particular phrase seems to just roll off your tongue, so to speak.

Interesting what admissions are absent-mindedly blurted.

[indio007]

Massachusetts eliminated the requirement for a blood test in 2005 because of a decline in the number of syphilis cases, not because of anything having to do with same-sex marriages, the fact that gays can't reporoduce, or "equality under the law". See http://archive.southcoasttoday.com/d...5/a05sr972.htm

The notion that "equality under the law" requires that all states have the same law is one of the most imbecilic arguments to appear on Sui Juris, but I'm not surprised in the least that someone raised it. Of course, even if this preposterous rule were the law, who's gonna decide what law is to apply nation-wide? If California has a community property system but Ohio doesn't, which law should be used? If Alaska says that the drinking age is 18 but Florida says it's 21, what law controls? If Massachusetts has a 3-day waiting period for marriage and allows first cousins to marry, but Nevada has no waiting period and bans marriage between first cousins, who wins?

The only way to decide on what law should govern all of the states would seem to be to leave the decision to Congress. But then you'd hear objections from the nutcases who claim that Congress can legislate only with respect to D.C. and the territories. So maybe the solution is to have a Steel Cage Match between the champions of the "Equality" and the "Federal Area" groups, with the winner getting to dictate the law for the rest of us.
Today 01:52 PM

Well considering I was married in 2006 by a Justice of the Peace/Town Clerk in Massachusetts, I think I have first hand knowledge of the situation. This was the rationale given to me by the Justice of the Peace that married me. Blood tests were unenforceable because of equality issues. I think she would know better than some AP reporter seeing she is on the front line

I think you could use a course in critical thinking. The article doesn't attribute your assertion to anyone in a position of authority.

Nowhere in the article does anyone in a position of authority explicitly state that is the reason for the change of law... just anonymous "health officials" and some guy off the street.

If you lived in the state , you would know that Mr. Romney was trying to keep the issue of gay marriage off the radar. This little PR stunt makes for a good cover story.


And as far as equality goes. Each state is sovereign in it's own right. The equality between them is within the frame work of US statutes and regulations.

Your literally comparing apples and oranges. It's equality of the law within a specific jurisdiction. When Political jurisdiction changes so do the laws and their applications. The requirement for equality within each respective framework remains.

[Lawdog]

Originally Posted by dorkenbutt

Funny how we have to pay for something that is ours, huh? If the Birth Certificate were mine, the STATE would not have it in its possession? Anyone that would use a copy of a Birth Certificate they had to pay for to prove they are a "US citizen" is a fool. Gee, what does that make lawpuppy? A fool? I could not resist. I'm having sooo much fun. LOL!!!

You're having so much fun because ignorance is bliss, and you're so damn ignorant you're downright ecstatic.

[ezrhythm]

A fool shows his annoyance at once, but a prudent man overlooks an insult.

[mertensv16]

Originally Posted by indio007

This was the rationale given to me by the Justice of the Peace that married me. Blood tests were unenforceable because of equality issues. I think she would know better than some AP reporter seeing she is on the front line

Unless the JP was a member of the legislature that repealed the blood test requirement, she probably knew less about the reason than the reporter.

Requiring a blood test for all persons who want to get married, whether they're gay or straight, cannot possibly be a violation of equal protection, since everyone's being treated the same.

It's equality of the law within a specific jurisdiction. When Political jurisdiction changes so do the laws and their applications. The requirement for equality within each respective framework remains.

I agree. In case you didn't notice, I was responding to Moishanb's absurd argument that Georgia's failure to follow the California statute on name changes would be a violation of "equality of the law".

[mrg]

Originally Posted by indio007

I think you could use a course in critical thinking.

The article doesn't attribute your assertion to anyone in a position of authority.

He is thinking critically--as a propagandist.

[antjraf]

Great discussion! However, I still didn't get the answer to the question that started this thread. If the people working at the county clerk's office haven't a clue what I am asking for (Certificate of Search), than how do I obtain one? Should I be asking in a different way? Am I asking the wrong person? Should I ask for it in writing and send it directly to the Clerk herself? I'm at a loss.

[Brick Layer]

I thought someone already said to take DiM's example with you... anyway that is what I did.

I couldn't get in the Federal Building because I do not have a "State" or corporate identification card or drivers licence so I had to use a United States citizen as an administrative agent to run in to talk to the clerk while I manned the vehical.

Notice in Michigan how the block of time is differant than that of the example David has provided from Colorado.