Question on traffic ticket court

[Dillon Hunt]

Originally Posted by Lawdog

Set down the Kool-Aid right now!!!!

This is exactly the kind of knucklehead attitude that gets people in trouble. YOU do not have the right, power, or authority to schedule any dates and times for any hearings in this case. You are the alleged defendant. The judge (or someone working for him, like his calendar clerk) sets the dates and times for motion hearings and trial. Even assuming the judge magistrate deactually received and read your nonsense, he is under no obligation to respond to it, and his silence is not "consent."

You are playing with fire, kiddo. Not too long ago, a poster on this board named "planetmark" decided he could file some gibberish paperwork and thereby "default" the authorities in Washington state who had awarded custody of his kids to his ex-wife. He ended up spending a year in jail after being arrested for interference with a custodial order and attempted kidnapping when he went to collect the kids pursuant to his self-issued "order". He was either found guilty or pleaded guilty. I checked with the Washington authorities' (the People are the Authoriities) online database and verified his convictions.

You're on the fast track to having your license (actually the STATE owns the License) suspended and/or having a warrant issued for your arrest if you fail to appear at the times and dates set BY THE COURT. Try these little nonsense games in court, and you could be held in contempt, which means you get fines and/or jail time above and beyond whatever fines and jail time you may be facing with the ticket.

Dillon Hunt, Humbly

[freedom found]

Ok, I chose to issue a promissory note for the amount of the ticket. 169.00 payable at some date in the future. The justice gave me an order saying pay or go to trial (today). I went the day after the oder and put in a statement saying the State cannot order me to pay in anything but gold or silver, per the Constituion, and the justice was already bound to his oath to uphold the Constitution, so the court had to accept a paper with 169 $ signs on it, as it was involuntary and he had already rejected my promissory note (btw, he said it was not acceptable because it did not have a date I would "pay" it). I said in my NOTICE I object to the use of FRNs and they were not Constitutional US money.

So, today was my "trial" I went in and asked the clerk for a reciept, to which she said: "We dont give reciepts for pieces of paper." I laughed at her. And went into the court room. Talked for a while with the citing officer, a friend of mine, and then the cross-dresser came into court.
He asked why there were some other officers in the court (probation) and they said they wanted to "watch the show". He called me up and I said "I am here FOR MARTIN FISHER.

He started bableling about something and I said "Before we go any further, this court must prove Political Jurisdiction over ME, a man standing on the land."

The Justice said the court had jurisdiction over criminal trials. I said this was a civil issue. He said the court would proceed according to civil trial proceedure. I inturupted and said "Not without proof of political jurisdiction over me."

He started talking to the officer and I said, "It appears public business is over, I do not constent to this trial, thank you for your time."
I stood up and walked out of the court without a word from the jp.

I went straight out to the county court house and got the paperwork to make a claim against the counties insurance and made sure everyone there knew what I was doing. I even made an appointment to talk with a county attorney, which I will do in the morning. Just to make sure I got proceedure down.

So, later on, I get a call from my friend who is a Deputy sheriff. He says "The judge gave you until July 11 th to pay or come to trial." I took the "bench order" from my friend later.

I am going to R4C the bench order and go ahead with the claim at the county in the morning.
The jp's are not bonded here, they are insured and work off the bond of a superior court Judge. So, I will go to the county and ask who's bond this guy is on so I can put him as a co-defendant on the claim. I am thinking of putting the county as a co-defendant. I will get the oaths of office from the jp and his daddy judge for the complaint/claim also.

I am going to charge the jp with theft as he has not returned my promissory note or my draft of 169 $.
I already have the US codes for violation of civil rights under color of authority.
I might also file a "small claim" in small claims court for damages, I figure about $25,000 FRNS and my fees.

Here is the reason for small claims court, since FRNS are worth NOTHING, even a claim of $25,000 FRN is a "small claim" as they are not US money/dollars! That is what I have read anyway. If I really want to be nasty, I will get W9 forms for all involved at the jps office and get my 1040 and 1099 OID filed to claim the "income" credit they are stealing from me and not reporting. Then maybe a phone call to the IRS Criminal Investigations Division may be in order...just thinking out loud here...

I have been doing many hours of study. As things stand now, I still have my "drivers license" and I am having a GREAT TIME!!!

Thank you for your input here I will keep you informed!!

[ezrhythm]

And THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE!

CARTWHEELS DOWN THE HALL!!!

That is some TREMENDOUS NEWS, GREAT JOB!

Interesting how you threw different remedies at them.
I really enjoy reading the testimonies where it mentions others sticking around to "see the show".
Now only if there were more officers like you.

[presentproper]

I have been reading this thread with intent interest because about a month and a half ago I received two traffic tickets. One for not registering my car and two for not insuring my car. It was not intentional. No money for insurance and could not get my car inspected anyway because of the broken windshield, not to mention I had no proof of insurance.

On the officer's tickets, I wrote "without prejudice UCC 1-308." As soon as I could I sent both my tickets back, dishonoring it. Now this is where I get confused. My hearing was at the Municipal level but yet the tickets said Circuit Court of (my county). Had I known more of what I was doing at the time I think I could have ended it at the Municipal level. Anyway, when the judge asked me if I was guilty or innocent, I stated I wanted a court of hearing. He immiediately said since I was making no plea he had to disqualify himself since he was only a Municipal judge (I'm not sure if he was actually a judge or not, no robe and no name plate on the bench). In hindsight, I think I should have stated right then and there that this court had no jurisdiction since there was no contract. When I dishonored the tickets, I tecknically did not accept the Prosecuter's offer to contract and therefore no contract. No contract no case. Right? Yes, I was terrofied and intimadated, this being my very first court appearance. In the past, yeah, I paid my tickets like a good sheople.

Two weeks later I receive a summons. And the saga continues...

[presentproper]

I forgot to mention my arresting officer was not at the hearing. So I made my second mistake, right? I could have called it off on tecknicallity.

So two weeks later I get a summons to appear in court in ten days. From what I've been reading, if you do appear in court, the court automatically have jurisdiction over you. Like I stated previously, I don't think they have a case, there being no contract. If I am right, everything nowadays is in Commerce as of 1938. In Commerce contracts rule. No contract no case.

I sent the summons back (I'm assuming that is another one of their contracts) with a letter requesting a proper summons:
1. with the "person in the subject matter" be properly named, that is my name CANNOT be in all capitla letters or contain initials.
2. summons had to be under official court seal and personally signed by the presiding judge, not a clerk's name.
3. attached to the summons with a sworn complaint of an "injured party." injured party cannot be a state/city.
4. county sheriff had to personally serve it to me.

Sent it thru certified mail with return receipt.

And the saga still continues...

[presentproper]

Few days later I receive a Notice of Entry (Supreme Court Rule 74.03). Looke up rule 74.03 and it is a civil procedure in the Circuit Courts - pertaining to judgments orders and proceedings. This Notice of Entry states that court did review my letter requesting proper summons be sent but I still had to appear in court or a warrant will be issued. I panicked and asked the Creator for guidance and he lead me to this forum. I had no idea what the court was actually leading to until I read moishanb's thread about DMM(domestic mail manual) CO10 section 5.1 TAPE. I think what he/she was saying is that it was actually a contract. So I sent the court another letter with the return of Notice of Entry. On it I wrote "Offer declined" and "Refused for cause" with my signature.

On the letter I stated Notice of Entry of Order declined:
1. stated the tape issue
2. the account name used was a fictional name.
3. proper real summons was never served.
4. rule 74.03 is a civil procedure not criminal.

I also stated that UCC 1-308 nulled and voided the contract as tho it had never happened. The court have no personal or subject matter jurisdiction. And lacking jurisdiction meant the warrant or indictment was invalid and of no effect. And if they were going to issue a warrant anyway I in no uncertain terms asked if judge or arressting office were bonded.

From my understanding a warrant should have the seal and signed by the judge with the oath of a witness charging me with the offense.

That is where I am at.

My question is; what exactly is a motion to dismiss? I researched it but couldn't decifer whether it pertained to me since I do not give them jurisdiction by avoiding court hearing. But then I did appear for the Municipal trial.

Thanks for all your shared posts.

Any advice critique is appreciated.

presentproper

[BurlBrown]

I have just signed up for this forum. Any time the demand that you sign a ticket or go to jail your right to due process and right to liberty are being violated.
Try written" All Rights Reserved" and under that write signed under TDC. (threat duress coercion) Also check out title 18 sections 241 and 242.
I am also fighting a ticket ( too scared to write utdc, at one point the Commercial road agent was reaching for his gun) Have filed three motions establishing my rights and that the judge will only rule in light of same and one Mandatory Judicial Notice for the judge to read all my motions and notices. I have heard that only a magistrate can sign and issue an arrest warrant. They have more to fear from us than we do from them. Burl

[ezrhythm]

Originally Posted by BurlBrown

They have more to fear from us than we do from them. Burl

As long as we aren't afraid to write TDC on a citation.

Welcome to the Sui Juris Forum, BurlBrown!

[farmer_giles_of_ham]

Originally Posted by Right to the Castle

What rights are you intending on reserving that you think might be given up because of signing the ticket?

I'd be concerned about waiving the issue of jurisdiction. Why am I agreeing to appear to a charge that doesn't apply to this case?

[presentproper]

Originally Posted by Right to the Castle

It does not matter. He does not need to be at anything other than trial.

Curious. I sat in on the Municipal level and the arresting officer was there. We made eye contact and he knew who I was. A week later, same time same place for my hearing the officer was not present.