Convince the Governor?!

[the_awakening_one]

Hi all,

In reading the Bork/PAC excerpt entitled Nationality Premise, and in particular coming to the part (page 3) where Bork outlines the "proper matters that must be addressed" regarding status correction, one of these stuck out at me as being quite unrealistic, compared to the rest, which seemed quite doable. The one striking me as unrealistic was:

4) Make the Governor of the state of your nationality understand that he has an obligation to you as a part of the rightful sovereign body via contract;

Now come on, seriously... the governor of my state is Ah-nold Schwarzenegger. How am I expected to "make" that guy understand anything?? I'm certain that he believes he understands everything he needs to understand for his job just fine. I'll bet $100 that I would never be able to get him on the phone, nor even get his "people" to reply to written correspondence on this subject, much less be able to produce evidence that I made him understand as sublime a political point as this.

If this step in the process is a crucial one, then I confess that I'm afraid of failing before I even start, because as I say, I do not have any belief that I could even achieve any communication with him, much less convince him of anything. Plus, with him being a big-time GOP player, my guess in advance is that he harbors no sympathy at all for people who don't toe the CORPORATE State Of California/"US persons" line.

Am I misreading Bork on this? Do you suppose he really means I just need to DECLARE to the Governor via affidavit what his obligation is? All the other "matters" he (Bork) outlines seem to be moves in the form of declarations or affidavits. Why would he add something as unlikely (and as dependent on another man's whims) as "convincing the governor"?

[weishaupt1776]

it's called "exhausting all channels", aka "plugging up as many rabbit holes a spossible"

if you don't notice the people, you can't set them up for a waiver of immunity via your own contract.

You haven't made it to that part of the book yet, though

[netwrkranger]

Hardcore.

I've read through my book and I missed that.

Guess I had better read it a second time =D.

Cool,
netwrkranger

[the_awakening_one]

I confess I haven't even started to read the book yet... that was from the online excerpt.

So Weis, I guess you are saying that I would still be sending the Governator an affidavit or declaration of some kind, and that such paper would be my formal attempt to "make him understand", right? Then the record would at least show that I stated my case to him, and my getting no reply would be secondary to the main thing, which is my bold assertion of my status.

I think I'm starting to get a grip on the basics here...

[Livefire]

I've not done the process either, but it seems to be akin to Clyde Hyde's common law default process. Set them up with the default and then file said default with the Secretary of State.

[weishaupt1776]

Originally Posted by netwrkranger

Hardcore.

I've read through my book and I missed that.

Guess I had better read it a second time =D.

Cool,
netwrkranger

it's based on a citation in 28 USC regarding situtions in how the state waives immunity. He cites it in the footnotes

I believe it is in the "remedies" section

[netwrkranger]

Thank-you =D.

I will read it again... this time with note taking.

[ThomPaine]

So, if a free man created a declaration of standing and wished to notice the public, the gubmint and other foreign entities, who all should be included??

Guv'nuh of the state where you dwell

Secretary of (said) State

Infernal Revenue, Treasury, ATF or other 'federal' agencies

Local police or sherriff (?)

been thinking about this, just havent done it yet, will do some reading on it..

other than registered mail, i am unsure how to 'prove' that some party received my declaration and had an opportunity to rebut its contents. Are the registered mail receipts kept as evidence?? I wouldnt think that convincing would be necessary, simple notification should be sufficient from a documentation standpoint..

Thom

[the_awakening_one]

I want to "second" Thom's questions, as I have the exact same set of them (plus a little more).

With regard to correcting one's administrative record and rebutting presumptions of "US citizenship", I really need an overview of:

A) the entities/agencies that should be sent affidavits/declarations

B) what those papers need to be (declaration of nationality status and what else?)

C) the sequential order they need to be sent in, if the order matters at all

D) HOW to do it procedurally, including any fatal mistakes not to make in filing, mailing, etc.

I realize that most if not all of that info is out there somewhere... some of it on this site, some of it other places, but the task of assembling it all (the info on how to do it, that is, not the docs) and verifying it is absolutely fricking monumental. Anyone who volunteers a succinct, coherent outline of this process will be doing a massive service for not only members here, but for everyone in the country who is considering this path.

I spent a year trying to glean the process from the famguardian/sedm sites, and had to give up trying to follow it because the info was just too exhaustive to be able to digest. Every time I thought I had gotten a grip, I slid back into confusion. I don't believe it takes 27 different affidavits and reams and reams of supporting paperwork to get it done. I think that Mr. Hansen--while a personal hero of mine--is just a teeny bit obsessive about the process(es), and created way too many documents.

If anyone would outline this in the way I describe, they will be my next personal hero for sure, and that of many, many others, I'm quite certain. Hell, I'd even send you a bottle of expensive bourbon or whatever such thing your heart desired.