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Old 06-21-2008, 10:47 AM
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Surrender v. release

I am looking for a little input on what I use as a personal oath. It is something I am realizing is establishing my own personal identity and the jurisdiction it relates to. This is it;

I surrender my body to be ruled by my mind.
I surrender my mind to be governed by my soul.
I surrender my soul to the guidance of God.

I use the word surrender as opposed to release because:

"A surrender is of a nature directly opposite to a release; for, as
the latter operates by the greater estate descending upon the less, the
former is the falling of a less estate into a greater, by deed. A surrender
immediately divests the estate of the surrenderer, and vests it in the
surrenderee, even without the assent (q.v.) of the latter. Touchs. 300, 301.
From Bouvier
Revised Sixth Edition, 1856

I welcome any and all discourse on this.
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Old 06-21-2008, 12:03 PM
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may want to do some research on sovereign or free man ID or on Declaration of Standing. attached is a sample DOS...

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Old 06-21-2008, 12:07 PM
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Thank you very much. I will wander down the path of the Declaration of Standing.
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Old 06-21-2008, 04:15 PM
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I like your prayer. Follow that and you will find your standing.

For me the best approach has been to let others make and prove their case. My standing is the result.
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Old 06-21-2008, 05:52 PM
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Thank you very much for the this;
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I like your prayer. Follow that and you will find your standing.

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For me the best approach has been to let others make and prove their case. My standing is the result.

I am coming into a very deep realization that this is the case. I am truly feeling as if I have shattered from the inside out (is this common). no pun intended

Me right now I am "Letting Go", and that is part of the message I take from what you are saying.
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