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Old 06-18-2008, 11:12 AM
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Just Principles

I was reading from Edwin Vieira in this month's New American magazine. He wrote:

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The Constitution is structured on these principles alone. For if the people in the states did not gain their sovereignty through the Declaration of Independence, they enjoyed no authority to ordain and establish the Constitution. And if they did enjoy such sovereignty, its character must have derived from the Declaration, there being no other source. That is, the Constitution is law only because the Declaration is prior and higher law, and only to the extent that it is consistent with the Declaration’s precepts.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/node/8346
I was wondering what people on this forum thought of that?

Is the Declaration of Independence really "law"?
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Old 06-18-2008, 11:22 AM
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It is my understanding, from listening to George Gordon, that the Declaration of Independence was a declaratory trust, a public trust within the Law of Nations.

The grievances listed against the King were violations of the Law of Nations and the rights of freeborn Englishmen.

I find that most interesting being that State Nationality is also based in part on the Law of Nations.

One of the primary grievances against the King was the encroaching jurisdiction of ADMIRALTY courts on land-based activities (sound familiar?).

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Old 06-18-2008, 12:54 PM
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It is my understanding, from listening to George Gordon, that the Declaration of Independence was a declaratory trust, a public trust within the Law of Nations.
Interesting, do you know which series of lectures Gordon talked about this in?
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Old 06-18-2008, 01:11 PM
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The lectures were on Common Law 1 - 7.

That one was pretty heavy. I took a lot of notes. I should post them on this forum sometime soon.

There is a lot to common law that attorneys leave out or choose to ignore. They would like you to ignore it too. Those two forms of law have been battling it out since civilization began.

I'm interested in accessing a court at law and the rules, procedures, and principles of that jurisdiction. Most people won't be able to access it due to their statuses in various contracts, trusts, and other equitable interests.

Release those interests and regain full access to the Constitution and courts at law.

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Old 06-18-2008, 10:53 PM
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Is the Declaration of Independence really "law"?

Absolutly, the law of the state of Nature and the Law of Nations. Further, if you can't see that it is the workings of the law of the state of Nature and the Law of Nations (or more likely, are have a hard time getting obtuse people to comprehend this simplicity), it is also published on Pages 1-3 of the Statutes At Large, Volume 1: 1st Congress, July 4th, 1776 (http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage....db&recNum=124).



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