new here, alot to absorb...

[Izzy Spun]

hello all, I am new here, and am intensely interested in becoming a sovereign citizen. However, I am confused. Most of the info I can find regards canada, or australia. I realize that they are very similar systems, but can't seem to find any info specifically regarding the U.S. system. i have watched a couple of films by robert arthur menard on sovereignty, becoming a freeman on the land, but once again, he is from canada, not the u.s. I really can't figure out where to begin. I want to do this for my children as well. i don't want my children to be chattel property of the gov't.

To add to my confusion, I hear all of these things about ucc filings in regard to redeeming the strawman, and I get even more confused. Could someone point me to some clear steps involved in becoming a truly sovereign citizen in america? Are their two separate paths to sovereignty? ( ucc/ non-ucc) Sorry to sound like an idiot, but I'm lost.

I originally introduced to the concept of sovereignty by my dad. he is currently in prison and is trying to be released by filing ucc documents or something. he swears that he has met people who have done such. Any help would be most appreciated...


Mike

[ewizacft]

Originally Posted by Izzy Spun

hello all, I am new here, and am intensely interested in becoming a sovereign citizen.

I originally introduced to the concept of sovereignty by my dad. he is currently in prison and is trying to be released by filing ucc documents or something. he swears that he has met people who have done such. Any help would be most appreciated...


Mike

Sovereign citizen is an oxymoron.

Learning is fine, just don't DO anything stupid.

[aksis]

Mike;

Welcome to the SuiJuris.net forum.

There is no such thing as a "soverign citizen" as you will learn. "Citizen" is the title of an Office of the political corporation UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. It is the People - men and women - who are the sovereigns...

Anyways,

Here is an article that I really enjoied when I first started looking into my inherent Rights, Powers and Duties:

http://www.commonlawvenue.net/main/Sovereign.htm

After you read that article, take a look at the homepage for the Common Law Venue network:

http://www.commonlawvenue.net/

There is *lots* of info at commonlawvenue.com, but before you get involved deeply in everything that it has to offer, I would like to present you with a quote from the Law of Nations that should serve as a prolepsis:

§ 44. He ought to know the nation.

We have observed above, that every nation ought to know itself. This obligation devolves on the sovereign, since it is he who is to watch over the preservation and perfection of the nation. The duty which the law of nature here imposes on the conductors of nations is of extreme importance, and of considerable extent. They ought exactly to know the whole country subject to their authority; its qualities, defects, advantages, and situation with regard to the neighbouring states; and they ought to acquire a perfect knowledge of the manners and general inclinations of their people, their virtues, vices, talents, &c. All these branches of knowledge are necessary to enable them to govern properly.

http://www.constitution.org/vattel/vattel_01.htm

In light of this, a good "next step" would be to study the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution for the United States of America. While you study it, keep in mind that it is the Articles of Incorporation for a political corporation (and to use some modern corporate lingo), We the People, are the co-owners of it... the sovereigns.


To really study the Constitution[s], you will need to have the proper dictionary and you will need to look up the words (even if you think you know the definitions - you will be suprised what you will learn):

A LAW DICTIONARY

ADAPTED TO THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND OF THE SEVERAL STATES OF THE AMERICAN UNION

by John Bouvier

Revised Sixth Edition, 1856

http://www.constitution.org/bouv/bouvier.htm

Note: do disregard the racist and sexist portions of some of the definitions.

Here are a few more sites that I have enjoied reading info from:

http://www.constitution.org
http://www.lonang.com/exlibris/blackstone/ (Commentaries on the Laws of England - 1765-1769)
http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/amlaw/lwsl.html
http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/avalon.htm
http://www.law.cornell.edu/
http://www.commonlawvenue.net
http://www.commonlawlibrary.com
http://www.sovereignpeoplescourt.com
http://www.statusisfreedom.com
http://www.un.org/

Much Love,

Christopher Theodore: Rhodes

P.S.

I presume that most people have read the first book of the Bible - Genisis - but that is not always true.

Even if you don't subscribe to the various religions based upon the Bible, this particular book is very key to so many principles in law that you should take another look at it if it's been a while.

This site has verious translations of it: http://www.biblegateway.com/