Cancellatura, Sovereignty recognition, Common Law Courts, etc

Thinkingwolf, Here is another reply from the Chief Justice of the Tuscon, Arizona common law court on your question:

--- Aage wrote:

Hello Hello,
I know many who has executed the Cancellatura and the acompanying documents to complete the Sovereignty process.

Employers never really need to know. When the taxes are witheld there is an IRS form that removes the income from the public man / woman to the private man / woman. There it will all be refunded. - - - -or you can file exempt if the employer will do it.

There are only benefits with this sovereignty. We can still operate in Commerce as before because we controll commerce.

Yes you are ending the contractual relationship without the equal compensation by them. But you are not ending the obligation by them for you

I did not know about the $ 4000 monthly chech that were getting in Nevada. Robert has talked about it is possible
Aage

Well, since this is also about "common law courts" here is a resource list I put together for our Colorado work-study group on the common law/jurial society/ecelesia
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Perspective- Common Law/Common Law Societies - study sources and links

Here are resources for further study on 'common law societies' (ecclesias).

Some of these materials have been shared at our work-study group. Been gathering this material for years while following "common law"/jurial society/ecclesia movements with interest. Know of other models of established examples with a good foundation and order? Please share.

Existing common law socieites associated with Bob Roberts:
http://www.commonlawvenue.com/ (Minnesota)
http://nevadacommonlawvenue.com/ (Nevada)

1. "Pied Pipers of Babylon" by Verl K. Speer, DCL (Doctor of Common Law) -- Amazing man ahead of his time. Glossary is priceless. An overview of Common Law and Common Law Systems beyond most I've read. Later expanded in "THE COMMON LAW" coorespondence program Mr. Speer co-wrote for UNIVERISTY LIFE UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF LAW. (Not found yet) Here is a link to purchase book for $40 used--out of print--: http://www.mysticlink.com/si/003387.html
From Mr. Speer's book we discover the origins and Development of the Common law: 1. Old Testament, 2. Great Migrations, 3. Society of Free Men, 4. A Common Law Jury of 12, etc. He goes much farther than most in developing the idea of Common Law with detailed history confirmed in my related studies.

2. Since Mr. Speer's history of Common Law starts in the Old Testament also provided an index of Biblical Law by George Gordan -- one of the early trail-blazing "founding fathers" of the misnamed "patriot" (legal reform, lawful remedy) movement. George received more mention in the Anti-Government Handbook (training manual for judges against "patriot" arguments, online at commonlawvenue.com in Documents and Case Law section) than all others combined. Shared as a foundational source of the common practices (i.e. law) that formed the cultures from which "common law" emerged.

3. R.J. Rushdoony's 3 volume "Institutes of Biblical Law" (http://www.chalcedonstore.com/). These add to the idea of applying this law in community and society:
* The Institutes of Biblical Law - Volume I -- Discusses the
general principles of the law as well as their specific
applications.
* The Institutes of Biblical Law: Volume II, Law and Society --
The relationship of Biblical Law to communion and community, the sociology of the Sabbath, the family and inheritance, and much more are covered in the second volume.
* The Institutes of Biblical Law: Volume III, The Intent of the Law -- “God ’s law is much more than a legal code; it is a covenantal law. It establishes a personal relationship between God and man."

4. The Dallas Abatement and Jural Society Seminar from 1996 with John Quade and Randy Lee. (6 hours of video) Inspired the Rebuplic of Texas and creation of many Jurial Societies. Examples of Jurial Socieities online-
http://www.buildfreedom.com/portal/category.php/236

- Randy Lee: http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/assembly.html

5. Matters Concerning His Lawful Assembly Audio Archives
(includes John Quade/Randy Lee video seminar (above) in mp3 audio format)
http://206.126.9.50/matters/LibertyArchives/index.html

6. Matters Concerning His Lawful Assembly produced the "Book of the Hundreds" -- an interesting source for establishing such societies. -- http://206.126.9.50/matters/index.html
* Book of the Hundreds, Part 1 - Prolegomena to Current Martial Rule
* Book of the Hundreds, Part 2 - Matters concerning His Lawful assembly Handbook
* Book of the Hundreds, Part 3 - Non-Statutory Abatement
Handbook

7. Eccclesiastical Commonweath Community has useful info and discussion forums on common law and related topics:
http://www.ecclesia.org/

8. What is Ecclesia- by Ben Williams A three-part essay on the meaning of the word "ecclesia"; how its mistranslated as "church" in Bible, and how it changes our perceptions of "Christianity." -- http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/ecclesia/

9. The Lawful Path - http://www.lawfulpath.com/

10. Richard McDonald's State Citizen Service Center Research Headquarters -- http://www.state-citizen.org/

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There are more I could share, but this is what I could find
right now.

[ThinkingWolf]

Originally Posted by Todd

Employers never really need to know. When the taxes are witheld there is an IRS form that removes the income from the public man / woman to the private man / woman. There it will all be refunded. - - - -or you can file exempt if the employer will do it.

Again my ignorance... what form(s) would that be? Also, all I have ever read is that as soon as I file a W-4 "Exempt" the IRS will reply to the Employer by instructing them to modify it to zero deductions (for maximum withholding).

Thinkingwolf - the exempt W-4 isn't the only thing we can do. But as you know how it goes (and has went in this case), because people don't listen and/or can't follow directions..we all suffer as a consequence. This other option is only available to someone who has their sovereign status completely established - and trying to use it otherwise just gets people into trouble... so it was decided this "furthering education" only be shared with people after they have the capacity to use it.

I'm still waiting myself...

whats the difference between a jural society and a common law court? Todd, could you clarify that?

[Bird]

Thinking wolf: <FONT size=1>"Also, all I have ever read is that as soon as I file a W-4 "Exempt" the IRS will reply to the Employer by instructing them to modify it to zero deductions (for maximum withholding)".& </FONT>


Where have you read that?& I have not seen that happen in numerous cases where one has signed an "Exempt" W4.& The employers did not withold any state or federal taxes in the cases I know about.

What's the difference between a common law court, jural society, or ecclesia? Substantially don't all serve the same purpose? Here are three definitions from the links I shared above:

Jural = “of law. of rights and obligations” (Concise Oxford Dict.)

Mr. Verl K. Speer, DCL (Doctor of Common Law) from the glossary of his book “Pied Pipers of Babylon”:
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Common Law: "The Law of Conscience as applied to governing the affairs and actions of the individual, and the affairs between individuals. Its essence is the golden rule. Its science is the science of living honestly with one's self and with other individuals. It is the coalescing of the two great powers bestowed upon Man by his Creator - the power to reason and the power of the spirit, working together in harmony with the laws of God and Nature. It is loyalty-to-self, loyalty-to-truth, as revealed to each individual through his conscience. Being the Law of Conscience, it cannot be written - it can only be written about. All that can be written about the Common Law is how it manifests itself through the individual who is loyal to self- loyal to his conscience. It is frequently said that Common Law is custom and usage from immemorial antiquity, that Common Law is the judgments and decrees of courts recognizing these usages and customs, that Common Law is the statutory and case law background of England and the American Colonies before the American Revolution - and now, our courts tell us that there is such a thing as "specialized federal common law" or just "federal common law." None of these are Common Law in its true sense and meaning. At best, they are manifestations of individual decisions and actions in particular situations, pursuant to conscience. At worst, they are manifestations of decisions and actions in situations wherein reason, spirit, and conscience of the individuals involved were stifled or suspended. To say otherwise is to lose or change the important thing - the true meaning of Common Law."
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Mr. Speer's definition of "common law system":
"A system devised by man for the sole purpose of creating a forum in which the Common Law, the Law of Conscience, can flourish and function in the resolution of controversies, and in the determination and application of justice. The heart of this Common Law System is a Common Law Jury of twelve randomly selected from the community in order to maximize the probability that, by each individual juror being loyal to his own conscience, the jury will represent the conscience of the community as a whole. Any system, or any aspect of a system that suspends or interferes with the reasoning power and conscience of a juror is not a common law system, or any part thereof."

http://law.jeffotto.com/ -- California Jural Society defines: "A Jural society is an organized political community and a synonym of nation, state, and county. It is Founded in Law, organized upon the basis of a fundamental Law, and existing for the recognition and protection of Rights.....The Jural Society is a Christian organization, based on Biblical principals, common law and the Constitutions, State and National. "
-----Another example – Christ County: http://land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/ccvault/index.shtml

http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/ecclesia/ -- Ben Williams on ecclesia: "The Greek "ecclesia" was "a civil body politic." This is strong proof that the Christian "ecclesia" we read about in the New Testament was an INDEPENDENT CIVIL BODY OF CHRISTIANS -- independent from rulers and man's government. Their objective was to be free to serve King Jesus. This phenomenon had nothing to do with building and attending churches! Churches are NOT ecclesias!"
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"An ecclesia...would be based upon the principle of independence through law (God's law). It would preclude central government or monopolies by any entity. It would insist upon free trade, private ownership, and the common law. It would use God's law as its constitution, and abstain from creating any more laws. Man would not rule man, but every man would be responsible for any crimes he might commit -- and answerable to his victim(s) according to God's law. The law would be enforced by every free male that is of age. "

[ThinkingWolf]

If I reclaim my sovereignty, is it true that it necessitates removal of my children from "public" school?

Thinkingwolf- Why would you want to leave your kids in PUBLIC school? How would your status as sovereign neccessitate you removing your kids from Public School? Don't know where this idea came from, but if you heard it from some other "sovereignty" proponent it is revealing of the limitations of their program.

Robert's cancellatura program is about INCREASING your options by taking control of the PUBLIC persona (TRADE-NAME) for your BENEFIT. It isn't like other sovereignty programs that result in you hiding and living like a runaway slave. Being an expert in contract law, Roberts has identified the key contracts that enslave us, how to obliterate them, and then how to recontract to our advantage where we are sovereign. This is unlike any other sovereignty program that has ever existed since it identifies the real problem and empowers you to regain control so you are the sovereign (and the "public" GOVERNMENT becomes the servant - as it was originally intended.)

[ThinkingWolf]

Are you suggesting home-schooling, or contracting with the local school (or district) to "educate" my children?


The "idea," as you've called it, came from a document here in the downloads (and other places), which basically say to stay away from anything that receives government funding.


I am following no "program." I am attempting to inform myself fully of the potential repercussions, or simply - changes, as a result of reclaiming my sovereignty.