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Old 02-24-2005, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Etyrnal
your view of this whole thing is wrong (according to this last statement). If you fill out a loan application, is that a note?

A loan application becomes a "note" when you are granted credit. Credit is your obligation, your promise to pay with FRNS. Your future energy--that obligation. If you paid for your car or your home with your "note" you were granted CREDIT based on your past behavior of paying with FRNs. You cannot buy anything with your phony notes. You can discharge your debt with phony notes, after you've purchased your debt with FRNs, but you cannot initially purchase anything without FRNs/good credit.

First you must realize who is granting who credit? If you do not believe that you are the true creditor and the source of all wealth, then what you say is correct. But nothing gets done until you sign something.

I think all of this is coming from a lack of understanding of whom you are to them.
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Old 02-25-2005, 05:00 AM
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ANSWER: Parliamentary Procedure

Good Morning B Rookard,

Ahh?? YOU DID NOT answer my most fundamental question. This is not "rocket science", as the saying goes. Let me clarify, ahhgggain!!!

Considering the circumstances that the then Congress was under, how was it humanly possible to comply with the parliamentary procedure of adjournment?

To be completely honest with you, it is my private opinion that the authors of "Cracking The Code" should not have referred to "Robert's Rules of Order" as their point to rely on procedural impropriety. "Robert's Rules of Order", as you are, no doubt aware, was not published until 1876. And although, Henry Martyn Robert followed the guidelines of parliamentary procedure, they are not synonymous.

The definition from the senate website of "adjournment for more than three days" has it's roots in a manual written by Thomas Jefferson and published in 1812, "A Manual of Parliamentary Practice". Parliamentary Procedure, by far antedates the Constitution, the Articles of Confederation, the Declaration of Independence and has ITS ROOTS in 12th century England. The Founders were well versed in it, but to lessen the likelyhood of confusion, Jefferson, when he was vice-president, realized the need of preserve these procedures for future statesmen and wrote the manual.

In reference to this procedural dilemma of March 27th on 1861, the "Book of The Hundreds" gives the best clarification as to precisely why adjournment sine die is properly interpreted as permanently dissolved under the circumstances, to wit:

"The adjournment sine die in 1861 had the same effect as that of the
Continental Congress that adjourned sine die to dissolve and terminate
its existence before the Constitutional Convention and birth of a new
Constitutional Congress. Otherwise, two Congress would have existed
simultaneously."

So, although I have not, as yet, gotten an answer to my question directed to you, I have again, answered yours.

Sincerely,
truth

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