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Old 01-04-2005, 03:47 PM
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Talking Un-Social Security?

This is as you may see my first post and I showed up here by reference as I am exploring for ways to entirely get rid of my surveillance number. If this is the wrong forum, sorry, and move it.

Basically, my question is as above: How do you get rid of your SSN? Thanks!
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Old 01-04-2005, 05:09 PM
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Welcome to the forum and good question...

First, maybe we should discuss if that number really is your property or not.
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Old 01-04-2005, 06:09 PM
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SSN Property?

Several discussion point jump immediately to mind. However, I would start off by typing the following. As a Sovereign, you are NOT your Strawman. Your Strawman is a creation of the state, and the SSN is the identifier for said strawman. Therefore, it seems logical that if that is your strawmans identifier and not yours, then why bother to dump it if you are not the state created entity?

SUI JURIS, (and everyone else) please check my logic.
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Old 01-05-2005, 01:33 PM
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Here's an affidavit I have for just that:

AFFIDAVIT: Recession of Participation in Social Security
__________________________________________________ ____________________

KNOW ALL MEN AND WOMEN BY THESE PRESENTS, that I, (state your name), BEING FIRST DULY SWORN AN OATH, deposes and says:

1. My name is (state your name), and I am domiciled at (street), (city), (state) Republic, usA NON-DOMESTIC. Unless otherwise stated, I have individual knowledge of the matters contained within this Affidavit. I am fully competent to testify with respect to these matters.

2. I, (state your name), am voluntarily withdrawing from the Social Security program. After having intensively researched the implications of my participation, I have chosen NOT to participate in this system any longer. Treasury Regulation 301.6109-1(d) allows me to withdraw from this activity and states specifically:

"Individuals who are ineligible for, or do not wish to participate in the benefits of the social security program shall nevertheless obtain a SSN if they are required to furnish such a number pursuant to paragraph (b) of this section."

Paragraph (b) is for those persons desiring to file a statement or return or those persons who are (under paragraph (a)) engaged in a trade or business within the United States. The following sections of the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) also apply to the Social Security program.

26 CFR 301.6109-1 (d)(1}-Voluntary Nature of Social Security
20 CFR Ch. 111, Section 404.1001 (c}-Requirement of Review
20 CFR Ch. 111, Section 404.1905-Ability to Terminate

3. I am not an IRC §3401 "employee" earning "wages”. I am a "nonresident alien" with respect to the federal "United States" who has NOT engaged in or been effectively connected with ANY "trade or business within the United States" and who has derived NO "gross income from sources within the United States." I am not an IRC "taxpayer" or "person liable" for any-internal revenue tax, or a "person" subject to the provisions of the IRC. I am outside both the general and tangential venue and jurisdiction of the Title 26, United States Code (USC) and the federal, corporate "United States".

4. Reviewing the Compilation of the Social Security Laws, 98th Congress, 2nd Session, Committee Print through 1984, pages 397 and 398 will fully detail the facts concerning the construction of the terms "State" and "United States". In subparagraphs (A) there is contained prima facie evidence that the Social Security Act of the 74th Congress, Session I, August 14, 1935, as recorded in Chapter 531 of the United States Statutes at Large was, and is intended to operate "within the federal United States ONLY".

5. As a "natural born Citizen", sovereign, American state Citizen and "nonresident alien" with respect to the federal "United States," I did NOT voluntarily, intentionally waive, with ANY "knowingly intelligent acts" ANY of my unalienable rights, and have utterly NO intention of doing so in the future. Any other evidence or presumption to the contrary is hereby REBUTTED.

6. This affidavit also serves as NOTICE based upon my rights with respect to constructive fraud and misrepresentation as established in, but not limited to, the cases of Tyler v. Secretary of State, 184 F.2d 101 (1962) and also El Paso Natural Gas v. Kysar Insurance Co., 605 Pacific 2d 240 (1979): These cases have clearly established, that:

"Constructive fraud as well as actual fraud may be the basis of cancellation of an instrument."

7. This NOTICE hereby REVOKES any past signatures or authorizations on any documents in your possession, control, and/or custody including any other department, agency, administration and/or division of any federal, state or Municipal government(s) and/or their political subdivisions. This NOTICE hereby RESCINDS, renders NULL and VOID any contract, quasi-contract, agreement, implied consent, or Power of Attorney which I may have entered into or given to you or your predecessors.

8. I hereby REVOKE, CANCEL and render NULL and VOID, Nunc Pro Tunc, both currently and retroactively to the time of signing, any and all such contracts. I reserve my Common law right mentioned under U.C.C. 1-207 and U.C.C. 1-103.6 to NOT be bound by this or any contract whereby I've not entered into knowingly, voluntarily and intentionally, and such reservation serves as NOTICE upon all administrative agencies of government, federal, state and local that I do not, and will not, accept liability associated with the compelled benefit of any unrevealed commercial agreement. The grounds for such a NOTICE are as follows:

9. At the time of application for a Social Security Number (SSN), I was incompetent by way of age to enter into any contract, or grant implied consent or Power of Attorney to any individual, person or legal entity. I was NOT INFORMED by any person at any time that I was NOT REQUIRED to apply for and/or accept a Social Security Number (SSN) in order to obtain work. I was not informed by any person that application for and acceptance of a Social Security Number (SSN) would subject me to the jurisdiction of admiralty, maritime merchant and/or interNational law, or the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC). I was not informed by any person at any time that I had contracted away my power of attorney, waived my lawful American state Citizenship and due process under the Constitution for the united states of America and Bill of Rights. Had I been so informed, I NEVER would have applied for and accepted a Social Security Number (SSN).

10. If your administration still maintains the position that no records can be deleted from the record, I would call your attention to your own internal documentation titled, The Social Security Number Policy and General Procedures; Numbers reflected at the top of the page are TN 16 6-90 and RM 00205.100B. This section refers to the specific deletion of numbers associated with the enumeration at birth program and allows for the specific deletion of any children noted at the end of step 2 and step 3. I am requesting any additional information, in writing, necessary to delete my personal records pursuant to the Freedom of Information Act under 5 USC §552. Please address all correspondence and communications in writing.

11. I hereby WAIVE any and all construed privileges to any Social Security payment or benefit under Titles II and XVIII of the Social Security Act. I understand and agree that no benefits or other payments of any kind under the above Titles will be paid based on my untaxable private sector remuneration constituting neither IRC "wages" nor "gross income." I affirm that I have NOT received benefits or payments under the above Titles, nor has anyone else received these benefits based on my remunerations.

12. I, (state your name). will no longer use SSN# (your number) for any purpose whatsoever, and will act as though such was never issued. I am further requesting any documentation necessary for the return of funds maintained under my Social Security Number (SSN) in accordance with Revenue Ruling 57-576. And since I no longer wish to participate in the Social Security system, all documentation with regards to my account MUST be purged and/or deleted. I have returned all Social Security cards in my possession.

13. My records are to be deleted upon termination allowed under 20 CPR, Ch. III, §404.1905 EFFECTIVE on ___/___/______ (thirty days) from execution of this document.

14. Kindly send me a letter acknowledging the fact of my RECESSION OF PARTICIPATION IN SOCIAL SECURITY and my subsequent withdrawal from the Social Security program of the federal "United States".

PERJURY JURAT
Pursuant to Title 28, USC § 1746(1) and executed "without the United States", I affirm under penalty of perjury under the laws of the united states of America that the foregoing is true and correct, to the best of my belief and informed knowledge. And Further deponent saith not. I now affix my signature and official seal to all of the above affirmations with EXPLICIT RESERVATION OF ALL OF MY UNALIENABLE RIGHTS, WITHOUT PREJUDICE to any of those rights.


Respectfully,



__________________________________
L.S. Citizen/Principal, by Special Appearance, in Propria Persona, proceeding Sui Juris, with Assistance, Special


Sworn, subscribed, sealed and affirmed to this _____ day of ___________,2005.


Notary Public for (state): __________________________

My commission expires: ___________________________
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If anyone see's an error in the above document, or a way to say something better, let me know. Also make sure you dont just parrot somebody else's affidavit without fully reading through and fully 100% understanding each part of it.
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Them affidavits and notice and demands and revocation of signatures were a one time posting for a day.
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Certificate of posting



This certifies that the undersigned observed the following described documents

being placed in an enveloped addressed for:



______________________________________

______________________________________

______________________________________

______________________________________

______________________________________

and identified by Identification Number # __________________ with the correct posting
locations for the sender and the receiver.
This envelope is entered into the delivery system of the U.S. Postal Service, with all common law rights reserved, and is deemed as being delivered upon deposit with this delivery service.

Item # Description

_____ __________________________________________________ ________

_____ __________________________________________________ ________

_____ __________________________________________________ ________

_____ __________________________________________________ ________

_____ __________________________________________________ ________

_____ __________________________________________________ ________

_____ __________________________________________________ ________

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MAILING CERTIFIED BY:

________________________________ DATE: ________________________

________________________________ Date: ___________________

Again no advice given or inferred.


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