Nationality Premise

[weishaupt1776]

Attached is a pdf called Nationality Premise to give more insight into the importance of state nationality

Weis,are you familiar with the work of(or opinions)Ed Whaler.I heard him on Rbn on July 7,2005.I am really going to make every effort to get myself out of this Beast system.I thinks its more symbolic to leave the system because the goal of these folks is extermination of us folks.I want desperatly to revoke all their chains of slavery,ear tags, brandings ect( Social Security,drivers, Marrige licenses birth certificates.)Ed seems to say you must declare yourself a Citizen of the United States of America and thus changes the way these other do***ents affect you.The drivers license would be replaced by a Passport claiming you are a citizen of the united States of America.Supposedly you would be entitled to get all your social security money you paid and 3 years of income tax back (Book Cracking the Code by Peter Hendrickson needed?) Something about you being a non domestic alien or something.

[weishaupt1776]

Originally Posted by Mr Nuetron

Ed seems to say you must declare yourself a Citizen of the United States of America and thus changes the way these other do***ents affect you.

You need to study, that's a bad idea

got to pacinlaw.org & buy the Red Amendment

Originally Posted by Mr Nuetron

replaced by a Passport claiming you are a citizen of the united States of America.

Passports are bad. Tthey have their roots in emergency war powers. By owning one, you are a party to the quiet war

Originally Posted by Mr Nuetron

Supposedly you would be entitled to get all your social security money you paid and 3 years of income tax back (Book Cracking the Code by Peter Hendrickson needed?) Something about you being a non domestic alien or something.

The best position is being an alien neutral, but you really declare your status as a state national(California National)

Thanks for your input weis im trying to get agrasp on this stuff.Unfortunately the cops keep giving bogus tickets i have 2 more hearings of some sort in 21 thru 23 of september.I'm about 12-3 in the last 10 years in these things.One i paid in ignorance and 2 i took drivers classes,one of those because the courts in 2 cities had me both scheduled the same day with the towns being 70 miles apart. The two towns knew this and talked with each other and would not change the dates. The other because i just didn't want to bother. Im just getting a severe lack of respect for these meter maid traffic cops.Thanks again Weis.

Weis,


I have not yet had the opportunity to get some of the materials you and KT suggested but have been reading the posted information from the sites. Sometimes I think I am beginning to comprehend and then I run into things that seem to contradict which creates confusion and them I seem to be back at the beginning again. I have some questions I thought might be better suited to be posted for all to see in case some others might be having the same trouble but I'll just list the most important one that created the most confusion for me.

1. L.B. Bork states that "The 14th Amendment political system is known to be an unlawful system by the United States; hence it has left a lawful way out of such system".

This begs the question that if it is known to be unlawful, and congress or the "United States" enacted it anyway, then why would anyone who acts in an unlawful manner care whether they leave a "lawful" way out? I mean really, this is akin to saying that if a theif steals my car, since he knows it was wrong, he will leave me a note to tell me how to reclaim it if I really really really want it back. It just doesn't make any logical sense but then violence is the opposite of logic and reason.

[weishaupt1776]

It's the same thing as Stevens, but different.

Marc says that there is no state

LB says that there is no state (DeJure)

Marc uses their "laws" and "Rules of Procedure", and frames his questions around those concepts in order to box them in

LB uses the same approach, so if you were in court, you would have a huge admin record and have the opportunity to box them in on a declaratory Judgment ala Clyde Hyde
"Am I a slave of the created Gov or are they my servants"?

[fulltitle]

Originally Posted by weishaupt1776

Passports are bad. They have their roots in emergency war powers. By owning one, you are a party to the quiet war

Passport requirements didnt surface in the US or much of the world until around 1914/1915. They are clearly wartime instruments. From what I gather, passports are actually issued to those who could potentially become soldiers. From what I gather, a key reason for a requirement for certain persons to have a passport is that during wartime, is that states wish to be able to know where their 'potential soldiers' are and also neutral and foreign states want to know who and who is not a belligerent.

An alternative is to be a National with respect to the lands known as California/Illinois/America/whatever.

Thanks Weis,

I get it now. Have Clyde's L-Docs, still savin for LB and KT's selections.

Don't know if LB covered it but I think some of the things Uncle Gus (Augustus Blackstone) mentions would go hand in hand with his materials as well. a-la cancel voter reg and all the things you're not forced to get yet but some people do therefore providing consent to the defacto. i.e. you're not forced to get a voter reg but when you do (look at the application) you are claiming to be a U.S. citizen and a resident of your state.

[weishaupt1776]

LB mentions the importance of reclaiming land via land patent as a dejure national. This is the way to shut down those Federal Park/UN land grabs.

Good discussion, guys.

It's funny how opposite and alike LB and stevens are in their ideology and approaches.

The dichotomy of it all. I just look for overlap and try to catch those aspects.

Augustus is definitely the man on land patents

[aksis]

weishaupt1776,

You mentioned that holding a passport makes one a party to the quiet war, I disagree with this.

Passports have been around long before the United States even existed.

Prehaps people are talking about U.S. passports.

I commisioned the World Service Authority to create a passport for me, and in it, it states very clear:

"It is without prejudice to and in no way affects the bearers status, national or otherwise"

As I was not a party to any war before the passport, I am not one now because I hold a passport.

Also, one does not have to become a registered World Citizen to commision the WSA to create a passport for you... I'm not. In fact, World Citizen Registration is a compleatly seperate Form.

I think if people empower their do***ents in such a way, then they will have that power... be careful what you give your power to and how you give it.