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Old 04-05-2004, 11:47 PM
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example of how dumbed down people are....



Talking to a friend on Yahoo...


xxxxxxx:Hey you, how are you, what are you doing?
ucc40: I'm ok, thanks for asking
ucc40: Reading the NJ constitution
ucc40: and learning some stuff
ucc40: boring stuff
xxxxxxx: for what
xxxxxxx: ??
ucc40: if you dont know your rights YOU DONT HAVE ANY
xxxxxxx: true that
xxxxxxx: lol...
xxxxxxx: so what are my rights as an American female?


and on and on...
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Old 04-06-2004, 12:13 AM
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Re:example of how dumbed down people are.



Yeah, people just don't realize.


My brother told me tonight how he has been getting on a friend of his who plans to go into business for himself... he has been telling him the advantages of using an LLC with a trust (Impossible to get around the EIN for his industry).

So the guy says: "I just don't know... if this works, then why isn't everyone using it?"


I told my brother what I would have said:


"Why didn't eveyone build a boat like Noah to prepare for the flood?& Why did most&people believe the world was flat centuries ago?&


Because most people are lazy sheep, and&instead&relying on facts they&have verifyied for themselves, they rely on the mainstream for choices, large and small.


If you have doubt as to the accuracy of my knowledge, that is acceptable. But do not insult my intellegence and extensive studies on the with that type of question. The masses are, by choice, not educated on the subject, so why would they know better? Study it out for yourself, then you will be able to have your own knowledge/opinion on the matter."


People and their non-logic.


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Old 04-06-2004, 12:20 AM
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Re:example of how dumbed down people are.

<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">You know what; sometimes I don't even feel like getting into it when someone said something stupid like your friend, or mine for that matter. I'm sick of putting the facts on the table just to have the people ignore it. PEOPLE like that don't deserve to know the truth since they don't even care to look into it. They are happy being the PERSON that they are.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o></o></SPAN>
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Old 04-06-2004, 12:29 AM
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Yeah, I know what you mean. But those who know me know I do not BS around, so they can expect straight talk on the subject at hand.

As to them not deserving to be in the know, I think everyone deserves the chance to know. While you may not feel it is your job, and I agree (we are all here by our own initiative), I prefer to give people the opportunity. If&what I tell them is&right, then at some point they will regret not listening to me. That is the bottom line, and that is my solace when people are to stupid/lazy to recognize opportunity and truth.


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Old 04-06-2004, 12:32 AM
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Re:example of how dumbed down people are.

Paul88,

Actually, what you said is only partially true.

I know what you speak of but, when I talk to folks about this type of stuff, I speak on what is important to them first then lead them to other truths.

For example, I had 3-4 people in my A+ certification course last week talking about money and divorces and how they were connected to each other.

As I sat and listened for a while as they rambled on--I simply mentioned that there is no money so why even argue about it? They all looked at me and laughed. I then told them that I was serious and I began to explain a little. Of course I was interrupted by a know-it-all.

So while I was sitting at my desk, I logged on to suijuris and showed them my VOD. I also asked them to join and learn for themselves and ask me anytime for information. I usually carry a dollar bill from the late 1950s that says "Silver Certificate" and not Federal Reserve Note. Then I make the comparison and Iask one of them to pull out a dollar and I show them. then I pull up the constitution and show them where the lawful money statement is. I also show them HJR 192.

Then I show them one of my credit reports where the item was deleted and a I show them one of my old CPNs with the exact account number on it.

As they stand there in amazement, i start to laugh and I usually ask, "do you have any questions?"

The whole point is, people need to see things before they can believe it. Well not all the time but, when you talk about discharging debt and keeping your hard earned FRNs--that's when they listen. But its a pity that they only pay attention to the money part and the jurisdiction stuff.
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Old 04-06-2004, 12:41 AM
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Re:example of how dumbed down people are.

Way to go Jerseee,

I agree, money talk will is one way to reach most people - but even after showing some people the facts they seem interested, but just to not have what it takes to follow through.

Either way, I will tell them. It is up to them what they do with it.

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Old 04-06-2004, 12:55 AM
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Yeah that is right. out of 3-4 people that one day, only one really has any interest.
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People,


The important thing to remember is that we do not need to convince everyone we talk to in order to create a change in this country.


In Jerseee's case, that one person came around... now if all 600+ members here just got one friend, co-worker, family, church member, cellmate, etc. to wake up once a week, do the math:


2,400 new sovereigns this month.
12,000 new sovereigns the next month.
60,000 new sovereigns the following month.
300,000 new sovereigns the following month.


And never, ever underestimate the power of JEALOUSY!When the sheeple see that their friend or family member is debt free and truly independent, they will want to follow suite.


Remember, a very small percentage of people are leaders. The rest are followers, or as we call them here - sheeple. <U>So find and recruit the leaders, and the rest will fall into place.</U>


That is all.
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Old 04-06-2004, 06:08 AM
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Re:example of how dumbed down people are.



to sum it all up:


1.& people tend to be sheeple;


2.& unless SHOWN otherwise by example of perfection in process;


3.& and then overcome the fear of "challenging accepted authority."


of all my close family members, i am the only one going this path.& the rest, despite their intelligence, aren't ready to accept/hear this stuff yet.


once what i have done/am doing has run its course to positive completion, then i can go back to them.


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Old 04-06-2004, 06:29 AM
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Re:example of how dumbed down people are.



1. The masses are asses.


2. "People are dumb...a person is smart." (Tommy Lee Jones in Men in Black)


3. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

4. "It's you and me against the world. Frankly, I think we're going to get creamed." (Old Ziggy poster)


5. "I'm as mad as hell and I'm not to take it any more." (Howard Beale)


I'm more of the "Howard Beale" type. All these "issues" are real hot-buttons for me. Wanna make me explode? Tell me what a great country we have while complaining about how high taxes are while simultaneously, of course, insisting that the money is used to run the country, and on and on.


And THEN, to compound it, admit there are real "problems," THEN start to "see" the truth, and dare I say, "remedies," but DO nothing.


Frankly, I'm all over the place on this one.


No one "deserves" to be taken advantage of, period. And that's exactly what BB does best.


On the other hand, people who don't want to know the truth, who won't act on the truth, probably do deserve to be left alone. Ignorance truly IS bliss.


Red pill. Blue pill. I wish it was the simple.


And at times I wish I could take the blue pill....


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