no more INS

Title 6 (Homeland Security), Chapter 1, Sec. 291:
<P class=catchline>Sec. 291. - Abolishment of INS
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</SPAN>Upon completion of all transfers from the Immigration and Naturalization Service as provided for by this chapter, the Immigration and Naturalization Service of the Department of Justice is abolished.
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<P class=labeltext-1>Randy
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[suijuris]

Randy,


They still exist, same people, same codes, same jobs, but they now work directly for Homeland Security...


Sui Juris

Oh, I feel much better now, right? (sarcasm not directed to you)


Thanks.


Randy

[Ice]

The reason that this is happening is because ALL people will be monitored by the Homeland Security dept.& This will take place gradually... but the will be the new Gestapo.


Wake up America!!


&

[dochand]

It's my understanding that all this 'homeland security' intrusion would not be allowed under the 'old' Constitutional government.

Since we have not had a Constitutional government in decades, what would be the prospects for returning to it, maybe with Michael Bdarnik as president. Could it co-exist with our 'corporate' US?

Nice to dream - but, seriously, what steps are needed to abolish this corporation and return to sanity?

I know that we, as a group, and individually are doing our best to better our own lot. But, we are a drop in the ocean compared with the rest of our fellows in this great republic.

I don't know. I find that these are the thoughts that torture me. I want so badly to have this country back for my children and theirs. Yet, a reality check tells me that all of our and similar efforts may be too little too late.

I talk to people all day in my practice about such things. Most think I'm 'bottso' and the ones who understand what I am saying and agree with it tell me that either "It's easy for you to do!" or "I'm not willing to spend the rest of my life in jail!"

I know I'm rambling a bit, but I needed to talk - thanks for your eyes and patience.

God bless us in our endeavors!

Doc

[Jerseee]

doc,

it is that type of attitude by folks that got us in the situation in the first place.

People in general like certainty and security. But the offer that is being made to them is a deal with the devil.

We will give you security and certainty but you must give us your freedom and privacy. The worst part of all of this is that there is no price for freedom if no one values it. Hence they give it up willingly.

My fellow man may be honorable but, most citizens lack that individual courage. Therefore, we call them "sheeple".

Your security is guarded by the sheppard but, sooner or later the sheppard will slaughter you.

Not you in particular-- but you know what I mean.

[dochand]

Jersee

I agree!

There was a metaphorical story I once heard regarding the 'burning hotel' that goes something like this:

It's 3am and you are awoken in your hotel room on the first floor by the smell of smoke. You step out into the hallway and follow the smoke to discover a raging fire that you estimate will consume the hotel of 100 rooms within the ensuing 10 minutes.

Knowing that time is of the essence, you begin by knocking on the 1st door, informing the inhabitants that they must 'wake up' and do something or perish. They respond to you from behind the door "You're crazy - go away and leave us alone - it's 3 in the morning."

You have a choice here. Spend the remaining time trying to convince the people behind the 1st door that they must do something or perish; or 'move on' to the next door, attempt to wake the inhbitants and hope that they listen and act. You have precious time left and desire to save as many as possible with your message of truth. Frustrated and sorrowful that the people behind the 1st door have rejected your message that would save their life, and knowing that there are others in the hotel to be saved, you move on to the next door.

I feel like this poor fellow; constantly knocking on the door of their belief systems and being told "You're crazy - go away and leave us alone." So, reluctantly, I finally do leave them alone, and move on to the next person in the hope that they might listen and (our country) be saved.

I probably don't have the exact story correct, but hope you get the gist of it.

One of the reasons that I enjoy this forum, besides the sometimes overwhelming amount of information, is the gathering of like-minded flesh & blood people with similar purpose and commitment. It does provide one with a respite for solace when depression over the reality of the big picture surfaces.

Nonetheless, thank you all for being here, giving of your time, knowledge and love.

Doc

here's a viewpoint from the sheeple for ya:


my mom:& "that's the price of democracy.& if it keeps terrorists [from terrorizing]..."& "we should just play by the rules..." etc.


my reply:& you can't stop terrorism.& period.& and, i AM playing by the rules - but first i have to figure out which rules i am SUPPOSED to be playing by!


jon

Originally Posted by jmunson

here's a viewpoint from the sheeple for ya:


my mom:& "that's the price of democracy.& if it keeps terrorists [from terrorizing]..."& "we should just play by the rules..." etc.


my reply:& you can't stop terrorism.& period.& and, i AM playing by the rules - but first i have to figure out which rules i am SUPPOSED to be playing by!

Hi, Jon:


I finally put my mother-in-law on notice: Never, ever, for the rest of my life, invite me to, ask me to participate in, expect to me show anything except total disdain for, anything and everything designed to elicit a teary-eyed, flag-waving, patriotic response from me.


And besides, Jon, you're not supposed to actually know the rules. Just do what you're told the rules are by those who say they know what the rules are. How dare you question anything!


Quick! Somebody get that man a cup of hemlock tea.


Randy

[Jerseee]

Jon,

usually, those type od folks will seek you out when they are in a bind and have not prepared for the inevitable attack of BB.

Keep on truckin'