How to "GIVE IT UP":

[4Integrity]

From the collective mind that we all are, can we put together a list of possible options for RETURNING or nullifying an existing passport?

How would one GIVE IT UP?....

I'm seeing first hand how the EyeRS uses the State of issue on the Passport as an entry way for access. Me and my wife got the passports because we went on vacation a few times overseas. At that time we lived in New Jersey and knew no better.... The passports are issued under authority of Philadelphia....

[BOBT12]

Originally Posted by 4Integrity

From the collective mind that we all are, can we put together a list of possible options for RETURNING or nullifying an existing passport?

How would one GIVE IT UP?....

I'm seeing first hand how the EyeRS uses the State of issue on the Passport as an entry way for access. Me and my wife got the passports because we went on vacation a few times overseas. At that time we lived in New Jersey and knew no better.... The passports are issued under authority of Philadelphia....

I do not know how to go about nullifying an existing passport. However, it would seem that you may simply stop using it.

Here are a few ideas for you to review regarding your passport issue:

Yes, I can recommend doing the passport app, it is not difficult at all. Since I already had one that was good for a number of years, I explained that there were errors on my original application that I had just come to realize had negative legal affects.

I told the passport application lady this, and she asked what those errors were... I told her that the main errors were relating to my citizenship status, that I needed to correct my passport application to indicate that I was an American National, as I am not a "U.S. citizen". I explained that on my previous application I had selected the "U.S. citizen" option re my citizenship because the correct option was not available and I did not realize the legal implications this carried.

The passport lady told me that my passport would still read the same, and that there would be no difference in appearance on my new passport. I told here that I was aware of this fact, and explained once again that the purpose was to update the application, for legal reasons. She took that attitude that she did not want to process the application, but I pressed her, making it clear that I knew my rights and would not leave.

So she gets on the phone with a superior (I suppose the Dept. of State) and explained the situation quite accurately (she was actually listening!). After explaining, she listened for a little bit, and was obviously being told to process the application.

So she returned and stated that the passport would look the same as the last, did I still want to proceed? I said yes, I knew that, and still wanted to proceed.

She then proceeded to do her duty without further objections, and less than two weeks later I received my new passport & my old passport marked cancelled.

PS: The passport application did not bear an SSN anywhere... and not one remark was made by the passport lady regarding this...

http://famguardian.org/forums/index.php?sh...c=9&hl=passport

Originally posted by weishaupt1776

Well, a friend of mine who is going through the process and has corrected his status to that of a Dejure National of his state just called me.

He got his own picture identification certified & apostilled by the SoS

He then sent it to the State Dept for a Fed apostille to travel overseas

They called him today & said a Fed Apostille was not necessary.

He said he was concerned because he is not a U.S. citizen and can't get a passport.

They said the State apostille is sufficient.

He then asked if it will do in lieu of a passport & they said yes.

They further complied with his request for a cover letter stating that his I.D. is sufficient in lieu of a passport to travel abroad.

http://forum.suijuris.net/showthread.php?t...hlight=passport

It appears that the U.S. passport will suffer from the same problem as discussed regarding “HR 418- A National ID Bill Masquerading as Immigration Reform”:

(CNN) -- A controversy is brewing over a U.S. State Department decision to put identification chips inside all new passport covers, a program scheduled to start by late 2005.
The passport chips differ from those now commonly used for building entry or identifying the family dog. Those chips only provide one piece of information -- a unique identification number -- when pinged by a radio receiver.
The passport chips will hold much more data, from 64 kilobytes to eventually 514 kilobytes, as much as the first personal computers. They will hold the same information as a paper passport plus a digitized photo and face template for the still-unproven facial recognition software, which also is supposed to identify you from a distance, unnoticed.
The fact that passport data can be read unencrypted, with no physical contact, from up to 30 feet away, according to the American Civil Liberties Union, upsets privacy advocates for two reasons.
First, groups such as the ACLU note that information on your activities could be collected by government agencies (or commercial and marketing interests) without your knowledge...Second, many people are concerned that criminal or terrorist "data-skimmers" could set up chip readers to grab information from your passport and find out more about you, or "clone" your information and make fake passports, again without your knowledge.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/01/06/passports/

Other information:

USA Passport, Does it prove American Citizenship?

http://famguardian.org/forums/index.php?sh...425&hl=passport

SUPREME COURT ON TRAVEL:

http://famguardian.org/forums/index.php?sh...391&hl=passport

"Voluntary" National ID Bill

http://famguardian.org/forums/index.php?sh...361&hl=passport

[4Integrity]

GREAT!.... very resourceful and informative, THANK YOU...