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Old 09-14-2005, 06:12 AM
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Thumbs up Maryland Declaration of Sovereign rights

Interesting find in the Constitution of Maryland, under the Declaration of Rights, the copy I have is from 1913, I check these rights are still valid.

CONSTITUTION OF MARYLAND ADOPTED BY CONVENTION OF 1867
DECLARATION OF RIGHTS
Article 4. Regulation of internal government exclusive right of people of State

TEXT

That the People of this State have the sole and exclusive right of regulating the internal government and police thereof, as a free, sovereign and independent State.

ANNOTATIONS (Notes of Decisions Index )
MD Constitution, Declaration of Rights, Art. 4, MD CONST DECL OF RIGHTS, Art. 4
Current with laws from the 2005 Regular Session effective through
July 1, 2005.


CONSTITUTION OF MARYLAND ADOPTED BY CONVENTION OF 1867
DECLARATION OF RIGHTS
Article 5. Application of common law and statutes of England; trial by jury

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(a) That the Inhabitants of Maryland are entitled to the Common Law of England, and the trial by Jury, according to the course of that Law, and to the benefit of such of the English statutes as existed on the Fourth day of July, seventeen hundred and seventy-six; and which, by experience, have been found applicable to their local and other circumstances, and have been introduced, used and practiced by the Courts of Law or Equity; and also of all Acts of Assembly in force on the first day of June, eighteen hundred and sixty-seven; except such as may have since expired, or may be inconsistent with the provisions of this Constitution; subject, nevertheless, to the revision of, and amendment or repeal by, the Legislature of this State. And the Inhabitants of Maryland are also entitled to all property derived to them from, or under the Charter granted by His Majesty Charles the First to Caecilius Calvert, Baron of Baltimore.


(b) The parties to any civil proceeding in which the right to a jury trial is preserved are entitled to a trial by jury of at least 6 jurors.


(c) That notwithstanding the Common Law of England, nothing in this Constitution prohibits trial by jury of less than 12 jurors in any civil proceeding in which the right to a jury trial is preserved.


CREDIT

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Acts 1992, c. 203, ratified Nov. 3, 1992; Acts 1992, c. 204, ratified Nov. 3, 1992.
ANNOTATIONS Subdivision Index III
MD Constitution, Declaration of Rights, Art. 5, MD CONST DECL OF RIGHTS, Art. 5
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Old 09-27-2005, 11:05 AM
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I personally find the reconstruction state constitutions null and void. They were created not by the concent of the government but by military rule dictacted by the federal government
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Old 10-13-2005, 05:39 PM
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State Constitutions only apply to the named parties who sign them. If no one signs it, it's void anyway.

The Maryland Constitution does not create Common Law, it merely attempts to conform to it.

The fact is that all people are born with natural rights to life, liberty, and property. No one in born with a natural right to another person's life, liberty, or property.

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Old 10-14-2005, 11:10 PM
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KT,

You are part right.

No one can have a natural right over another. If not granted by the Creator, then its not natural.

However, Constitutions are not null and void. They are business plans for the fiction of government.
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Old 10-18-2005, 11:34 PM
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Well said.

Jersee,well said.Kaos i was just watching they live and rembered your picture thingy.Wish i had a pair of those glasses for spotting illuminati goons but i guess their actions give them away so maybe i don't need the glasses.Keep punching.
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Old 10-23-2005, 11:04 AM
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Jersee,

Not sure what you mean but here are my probing questions and my answers so you can see where I'm going with them.

Void - Having no legal force or validity; null: a contract rendered void.

Are constitutions meant to be contracts?
*Yes

Are all people born with natural rights to life, liberty, and property?
*Yes

Apart from violence, how does one person gain a right to another's life, liberty, or property?
*By voluntary agreement i.e. contract.

What is the percieved purpose of a government?
*To protect life, liberty, and property.

How do you get a group of people, who form a government, to protect your life liberty and property without some kind of agreement?
*You don't, there must be a contract in force. Otherwise, no one is accountable to anyone for protection.

How does one agree to a contract?
*By signing it.

What if a contract is drawn up but no one agrees to it?
*It is void.

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Old 10-23-2005, 10:52 PM
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KT,

I will attempt to answer most of what you posted. Keep in mind that your questions seem to suit your answers or what you are looking for. Here goes....

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Jersee,

Not sure what you mean but here are my probing questions and my answers so you can see where I'm going with them.

Void - Having no legal force or validity; null: a contract rendered void.

Are constitutions meant to be contracts?
*Yes
partly. They are business plans for the fiction of government. They tell government how to operate

Are all people born with natural rights to life, liberty, and property?
*Yes I agree

Apart from violence, how does one person gain a right to another's life, liberty, or property?
*By voluntary agreement i.e. contract. or by silence. If there is no objection by the other party (who has been notified), then there must be agreement--wouldn't you say?

What is the percieved purpose of a government?
*To protect life, liberty, and property. "governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed....

How do you get a group of people, who form a government, to protect your life liberty and property without some kind of agreement?
*You don't, there must be a contract in force. Otherwise, no one is accountable to anyone for protection. this appears to be a loaded question. Can you ask it with a little more neutrality?

How does one agree to a contract?
*By signing it.
not always. you also have implied as well as express. For example, if I drive up to a carwash, it is implied that I want my car washed, until I state my intentions. I could drive up to a carwash and the attendant will come out to ask which service do I want (offer). It is at this point I state, I just need directions (offer refused) to the nearest market. Had I accepted to get my car washed, I did so by implication because I drove up to the carwash.

Recap: I drove up to a carwash (implied). The attendant made an offer, I accepted the offer, now we have a contract to wash a car for a cost (accord and satisfaction).

Notice, I never signed anything.


What if a contract is drawn up but no one agrees to it?
*It is void.
It cannot be void because there is no contract since no one agreed to it.

The only way something can be void is if there was some validity (consent) to it in the beginning. If you make an offer and no one accepts--then it is no contract. If you make an offer and someone counters that offer, then there is a possibility that it can be void later if there eventually is an agreement (contract).

So if you are referring to the Constitution as being void, I have to say that you are wrong. Unless you are in business with the government---you have no contract with the government. So let's go back to what I said in the beginning of this question....If you make an offer and no one accepts---then there is no contract. However, your actions or yor lack thereof can also ratify a contract (implied). This is where the assumption stuff comes in.

A simple search for the definition has been included:

void (void)
adj.
1. Containing no matter; empty.
2. Not occupied; unfilled.
3. Completely lacking; devoid: void of understanding. See synonyms at empty.
4. Ineffective; useless.
5. Having no legal force or validity; null: a contract rendered void.
6. Games. Lacking cards of a particular suit in a dealt hand.


There must be a contract before something can be void. No contract, no agreement. Just because an offer is drawn up---does not make it a contract. A contract is valid because all parties have to agree to it.

See the definition of contract.

Steps: Offer + Counter-offer (if necessary) + Acceptance = Contract.

Offer + Acceptance + any type of fraud at any time = No contract

Hope this helps





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