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Old 10-06-2003, 02:52 PM
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Allow me to share even more thoughts with you all.& And I quote:
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-JUSTIFY: inter-ideograph; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">"The United States Government has openly declared in United States District Court for the District of Idaho, that it “denies that the Internal Revenue Service is an agency of the United States Government.”</FONT></SPAN>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-JUSTIFY: inter-ideograph; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt"></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Since “the Social Security Number is also used by the IRS for tax administration purposes” and due to the fact that the United States Government has declared that the IRS is not an agency of the United States Government, there is real concern as to just what is occurring in your relationship with them (IRS)."<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o></o></FONT></SPAN>


Now, after reading the above, I got to wondering... how is it that a non-gov agency has the right to be privy to your personal information contained at the government agency, SSA??& Are there not some issues regarding "Privacy" in question here?& Is it not a violation of the SSA to share or divulge any information about your person&with a non-gov entity?& And isn't the SS-5 form the instrument that informs the IRS that you are a "taxable U.S. 'person'"??


What hypocrites!& It seems the law does not apply to them!!& It is a good example of the Master/Slave relationship... "don't question what I do, just do as I say!"


But, and think about this folks, it may be possible to bring an action against the SSA for disclosure of personal information to a non-government agency.& Of course, they will fight this tooth and nail... but it would bring a lot of the fraud out into the open.& Wouldn't it?& Maybe we should think about initiating this sort of action.& It does beg for a little more research... doesn't it?


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Re:Notice to Comm. SSA



Allow me to share even more thoughts with you all.& And I quote:
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-JUSTIFY: inter-ideograph; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">"The United States Government has openly declared in United States District Court for the District of Idaho, that it “denies that the Internal Revenue Service is an agency of the United States Government.”</FONT></SPAN>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-JUSTIFY: inter-ideograph; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt"></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Since “the Social Security Number is also used by the IRS for tax administration purposes” and due to the fact that the United States Government has declared that the IRS is not an agency of the United States Government, there is real concern as to just what is occurring in your relationship with them (IRS)."<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o></o></FONT></SPAN>


Now, after reading the above, I got to wondering... how is it that a non-gov agency has the right to be privy to your personal information contained at the government agency, SSA??& Are there not some issues regarding "Privacy" in question here?& Is it not a violation of the SSA to share or divulge any information about your person&with a non-gov entity?& And isn't the SS-5 form the instrument that informs the IRS that you are a "taxable U.S. 'person'"??


What hypocrites!& It seems the law does not apply to them!!& It is a good example of the Master/Slave relationship... "don't question what I do, just do as I say!"


But, and think about this folks, it may be possible to bring an action against the SSA for disclosure of personal information to a non-government agency.& Of course, they will fight this tooth and nail... but it would bring a lot of the fraud out into the open.& Wouldn't it?& Maybe we should think about initiating this sort of action.& It does beg for a little more research... doesn't it?


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<FONT face="courier new, courier, mono">There are bugs everywhere, I see them every day. If you have not seen them,&you&must be on some new beta release of the matrix that has the bugs worked out. But it is still the matrix... and it still must do what it is told.

</FONT><FONT face="courier new, courier, mono">When the system self-destructs, it will not be an accident, or some fluke of nature. Rather, the obsolete code it is based upon will be the source of its undoing.

We are not the ones who should be dispairing - our victory is not a question, only the timing remains unknown.</FONT>
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<FONT face="courier new, courier, mono">There are bugs everywhere, I see them every day. If you have not seen them,&you&must be on some new beta release of the matrix that has the bugs worked out. But it is still the matrix... and it still must do what it is told.

</FONT><FONT face="courier new, courier, mono">When the system self-destructs, it will not be an accident, or some fluke of nature. Rather, the obsolete code it is based upon will be the source of its undoing.

We are not the ones who should be dispairing - our victory is not a question, only the timing remains unknown.</FONT>
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Ice,


It sounds as if you are leaning towards a class action suit.&


Also, I believe that the SS-5 is not just a cohesion contract---but it is more of an unconscienceable contract.& It cannot be worse than a military contract.& This is the most unconscienceable contract there is that I know of.& It has no full disclosure period.
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Ice,


It sounds as if you are leaning towards a class action suit.&


Also, I believe that the SS-5 is not just a cohesion contract---but it is more of an unconscienceable contract.& It cannot be worse than a military contract.& This is the most unconscienceable contract there is that I know of.& It has no full disclosure period.
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Not a class action -- that would require the use of an "Attorney".& But there could be&a whole bunch of co-complaintants.


I'm wondering what others might think of this.& Come on folks... chime in!
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jerseee,


Not a class action -- that would require the use of an "Attorney".& But there could be&a whole bunch of co-complaintants.


I'm wondering what others might think of this.& Come on folks... chime in!
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<FONT face="courier new, courier, mono">A big YES here... </FONT>


<FONT face="Courier New">If we win and&people see - they just might see the truth!</FONT>


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