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Re:Citizenship Defined
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These questions were administered by Mr. Alberto Gutier, Deputy Administrator, Arizona Department of Transportation, at approximately two o'clock p.m. on August 24, 1989, after confirming that Mr. Cooper had met with Mr. Carl Davis, the Governor's Special Assistant Over Sate Agencies:
Mr. Gutier: "Before we go any further, I need to ask you our standard Screening Questions."--
Question No. 1. -- Mr. Gutier: "Are you a citizen of the United States?"
Mr. Cooper's answer: "No I am not."
Question No. 2. -- Mr. Gutier: "Are you a resident of Arizona?"
Mr. Cooper's Answer: "No, I am not. I was born in Phoenix. I have lived in Maricopa County all my life, but I am not a resident. I do not reside."
Question No. 3. -- Mr. Gutier: "Are you registered to vote?"
Mr. Cooper's Answer: "No, I am not."
Question No. 4. -- Mr. Gutier: "Do you have a driver's license?"
Mr. Cooper's answer: "No, I do not."
Question No. 5. -- Mr. Gutier: "Do you have any motor vehicles registered in Arizona?"
Mr. Cooper's answer: "No, I do not."
Question No. 6. -- Mr. Gutier: "Are you employed?"
Mr. Cooper's answer: No, I am not. I am not employed. I am not unemployed. I am not self-employed. I am not gainfully employed. In fact, I am not employable. But, I work. Besides, Arizona is a right to work State. [Mr. Gutier nodded his head in agreement and went on.]
Question No. 7. -- Mr. Gutier: "Do you pay state and federal resident income taxes?"
Mr. Cooper's answer: "No, I do not."
Question No. 8. -- Mr. Gutier: "Do you pay property taxes in Arizona?"
Mr. Cooper's answer: "No, I do not."
Question No. 9. -- Mr. Gutier: "Do you have a marriage license?"
Mr. Cooper's answer: "No, I do not."
Question No. 10. --Mr. Gutier: "Do you have children enrolled in public school?"
Mr. Cooper's Answer: No, I do not. My children are home taught."
Mr. Gutier then said, "You've really done your homework!"
From this little exchange, it is possible to begin to grasp the extent of "privileges" and "benefits" as the "government" defines them. It is very necessary to grasp these concepts in order to begin to understand "freedom." (I also suggest that you read the Fourteenth Amendment, and pay particular attention to the word reside, because it is the use of that word in that amendment which is the basis of the entire residency rules and statutes in use in the United States today.)
If you must answer "yes" to any of the questions asked by Mr. Gutier, and are arguing and fighting over "not owing" the so-called income tax, or any other tax imposed by "government", then you are what is known as a "tax protester". There are a number of other questions that could be added to this list, and the most important two are:
Do you have any license issued by any arm of the "government?" (There is only one government in America today, and all States, counties, and cities are arms of that government.)
Do you have a Social Security Number?
Any "yes" answer to either of these questions, or any of the questions posed by Mr. Gutier above, means you are a United States citizen, and subject to the rules and regulations imposed by Congress on all subjects thereof.
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Re:Citizenship Defined
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These questions were administered by Mr. Alberto Gutier, Deputy Administrator, Arizona Department of Transportation, at approximately two o'clock p.m. on August 24, 1989, after confirming that Mr. Cooper had met with Mr. Carl Davis, the Governor's Special Assistant Over Sate Agencies:
Mr. Gutier: "Before we go any further, I need to ask you our standard Screening Questions."--
Question No. 1. -- Mr. Gutier: "Are you a citizen of the United States?"
Mr. Cooper's answer: "No I am not."
Question No. 2. -- Mr. Gutier: "Are you a resident of Arizona?"
Mr. Cooper's Answer: "No, I am not. I was born in Phoenix. I have lived in Maricopa County all my life, but I am not a resident. I do not reside."
Question No. 3. -- Mr. Gutier: "Are you registered to vote?"
Mr. Cooper's Answer: "No, I am not."
Question No. 4. -- Mr. Gutier: "Do you have a driver's license?"
Mr. Cooper's answer: "No, I do not."
Question No. 5. -- Mr. Gutier: "Do you have any motor vehicles registered in Arizona?"
Mr. Cooper's answer: "No, I do not."
Question No. 6. -- Mr. Gutier: "Are you employed?"
Mr. Cooper's answer: No, I am not. I am not employed. I am not unemployed. I am not self-employed. I am not gainfully employed. In fact, I am not employable. But, I work. Besides, Arizona is a right to work State. [Mr. Gutier nodded his head in agreement and went on.]
Question No. 7. -- Mr. Gutier: "Do you pay state and federal resident income taxes?"
Mr. Cooper's answer: "No, I do not."
Question No. 8. -- Mr. Gutier: "Do you pay property taxes in Arizona?"
Mr. Cooper's answer: "No, I do not."
Question No. 9. -- Mr. Gutier: "Do you have a marriage license?"
Mr. Cooper's answer: "No, I do not."
Question No. 10. --Mr. Gutier: "Do you have children enrolled in public school?"
Mr. Cooper's Answer: No, I do not. My children are home taught."
Mr. Gutier then said, "You've really done your homework!"
From this little exchange, it is possible to begin to grasp the extent of "privileges" and "benefits" as the "government" defines them. It is very necessary to grasp these concepts in order to begin to understand "freedom." (I also suggest that you read the Fourteenth Amendment, and pay particular attention to the word reside, because it is the use of that word in that amendment which is the basis of the entire residency rules and statutes in use in the United States today.)
If you must answer "yes" to any of the questions asked by Mr. Gutier, and are arguing and fighting over "not owing" the so-called income tax, or any other tax imposed by "government", then you are what is known as a "tax protester". There are a number of other questions that could be added to this list, and the most important two are:
Do you have any license issued by any arm of the "government?" (There is only one government in America today, and all States, counties, and cities are arms of that government.)
Do you have a Social Security Number?
Any "yes" answer to either of these questions, or any of the questions posed by Mr. Gutier above, means you are a United States citizen, and subject to the rules and regulations imposed by Congress on all subjects thereof.
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09-26-2003, 10:18 AM
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Re:Citizenship Defined
<FONT face="courier new, courier, mono">Very good posts! I like where this topic is going. Knowing who you are does change your standing in commerce!</FONT>
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When a statute, code, or court holding changes tomorrow, does reality change? Does truth change? Does right and wrong change?
If so, there are no absolutes, and the only logical conclusion is that reality, truth, and right and wrong are determined arbitrarily on a daily basis by those with the most power, guns, and money, and the rest of us can choose to run, fight, or be their slaves.
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09-26-2003, 10:18 AM
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Re:Citizenship Defined
<FONT face="courier new, courier, mono">Very good posts! I like where this topic is going. Knowing who you are does change your standing in commerce!</FONT>
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When a statute, code, or court holding changes tomorrow, does reality change? Does truth change? Does right and wrong change?
If so, there are no absolutes, and the only logical conclusion is that reality, truth, and right and wrong are determined arbitrarily on a daily basis by those with the most power, guns, and money, and the rest of us can choose to run, fight, or be their slaves.
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09-26-2003, 09:54 PM
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<FONT face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, Serif">Thanks Sui Juris,</FONT>
<FONT face=Georgia>It is amazing what one finds on the net.</FONT>
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Re:Citizenship Defined
<FONT face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, Serif">Thanks Sui Juris,</FONT>
<FONT face=Georgia>It is amazing what one finds on the net.</FONT>
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09-27-2003, 04:43 PM
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Re:Citizenship Defined
Great post!
I do believe, if the questions were posed to Mr. Cooper's commercial person the answers would have been different.& Good job though.
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09-27-2003, 04:43 PM
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Re:Citizenship Defined
Great post!
I do believe, if the questions were posed to Mr. Cooper's commercial person the answers would have been different.& Good job though.
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