National Status

[mystic one]

In terms of looking at the grander picture where does national status fit into the whole picture of remedy? Does one need to change there citizenship to U.S. national to challenge In Personum Jurisdiction in any of the remedies we discuss, or is securing your national status only more important with securing remedy in tax issues?

[weishaupt1776]

Becoming a U.S. National is a really bad idea
It's synonymous w/being a U.S. Citizen

Check it out:

• 8 USC § 1101(a)(22)(A):
  The term “national of the United States” means
  (A) a citizen of the United States
  
  8 USC § 1401
  The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
  (a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereon

Hansen is misleading people into suggesting people become U.S. NATIONALS

Status correction to that of a (insert state) National is the way to go

However this correction is not meant to "duck out" title 26; it is because there is an unlawful body politic of U.S. citizens inhabiting each state rather than true state nationals populating each state

Too many people do this for the wrong reasons

[Stephen Michael]

Originally Posted by mystic one

Does one need to change there citizenship to U.S. national to challenge In Personum Jurisdiction in any of the remedies we discuss?

I concur with Weis, (wrong label, but overlooking that...) No. But if the burden of proof shifts to you, you will need documentation (proof of claim) to thwart their presumption of PJ.

[mystic one]

How does one become a "State National" ie. correct ones status? what paperwork needs to be filed?

"cancellutera of us citizenship"??
"writ of mandamus"
"writ of execution"

What actual paperwork has to be filed to become a state national? And as discussed many times before on here, one is able to "challenge" in per sonanum jurisdiction just by the "hypothecation" of your Surname that is on your birth certificate? One just comes to court under restricted apperance file for misnomer?
Correcting ones status to state nat. is good, but not neccessary to challenge, in personum?

[Ice]

Weis is correct. State National is the way to go. But, you can assert this simply by denying that you are a U.S. citizen.

Never admit to anything. They must prove all claims.
(No drivers license, no SS #, etc. Remember, those things are not yours!)

But note that the cite quoted states: U.S. National and does not use the word "American". There is a difference. You can be "American" without being a U.S. citizen.

Ice

[mystic one]

How does one become a "State National" ie. correct ones status? what paperwork needs to be filed in your federal evidence repository?

"cancellutera of us citizenship"??
"writ of mandamus"
"writ of execution"??

What actual paperwork has to be filed to become a state national? And as discussed many times before on here, one is able to "challenge" in per sonanum jurisdiction just by the "hypothecation" of your Surname that is on your birth certificate? One just comes to court under restricted apperance file for misnomer?
Correcting ones status to state nat. is good, but not neccessary to challenge, in personum as one could just simply state prove i am that ficticious entity, no paperwork woold be neccessary, since the burden of proof is not on you? just to show yourself as comptent jurisdiction, it maybe good to file a cancelletura of us citizenship just to solidify it in ones mind?

[weishaupt1776]

Originally Posted by mystic one

How does one become a "State National" ie. correct ones status? what paperwork needs to be filed in your federal evidence repository?

Well there's more than one way to skin a cat.

Some people just have more sound methods which have the circuitous path of code, statutes at large, cases, International Law, and the Constitution to back it up:
http://www.suijuris.net/forum/citize...l?t-3141.html=

And not only the substance, but also the exhaustive admin procedures necessary to plug up all of the rabbit holes

You can try to stroke your own ego and try to conceive such a thing yourself and pat yourself on the back or you can go with an expert who has been studying the stuff for a decade at least in addition to a whole network of people who are joined together for the one true cause of repopulating the american Republics instead of running the Title 26/Title 15 hamster wheels

[mystic one]

Are you such expert that has been studying this for over a decade..??? i am attempting to do is file my "new status" paperwork in the district court by way of notarial protest using the means of "Cancellutura of all U.S documents in my possesion", writ of mandamus, and writ of execution.. Then to add another layer to this cake, i was going to schedule a hearing in the district court, to have the adminstrative tribunal take record of my newlly proclaimed status.. Request the record of the hearing, then have the notary place the magical seal on it, then file it in my evidence repository.. Do i have the process down pat?

Tha Mystical One

[mystic one]

Can one obtain a passport, with there judgement of being a state national on file in the evidence repository?

or is the statutory way the only way to obtain passport?

[fulltitle]

Originally Posted by mystic one

Can one obtain a passport, with there judgement of being a state national on file in the evidence repository?

or is the statutory way the only way to obtain passport?

Without Prejudice.
A U.S. passport is for U.S. citizens or U.S. nationals.