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Old 01-26-2007, 03:08 PM
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SECTION 4. JUDICIAL OFFICES
(a) On the effective date of this Constitution,
Associate Judges and magistrates shall become Circuit JudgeS and Associate Judges, respectively, of their Circuit Courts. All laws and rules of court theretofore applicable to Associate Judges and magistrates shall remain in force and be applicable to the persons in their new offices until changed by the General Assembly or the Supreme Court, as the case may be.
(b) (Removed)
(c) (Removed)
(d) Until otherwise provided by law and except to the extent that the authority is inconsistent with Section 8 of Article VII, the

"[Circuit Courts shall continue to exercise the non-judicial functions vested by law as of December 31, 1963in county courts or the judges thereof.]"

(Source: Illinois Constitution.)

Are they admitting that, they are openly banking on the private books of the banksing system? Maybe, i'm reading it wrong. Here is Section 8:


SECTION 8. BRANCH BANKING
Branch banking shall be authorized only by law approved by three-fifths of the members voting on the question or amajority of the members elected, whichever is greater, in each house of the General Assembly.

(Source: Illinois Constitution.)


So, where could I prove there are involved with there "partners(foregin exchange)" in crime?

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Old 01-26-2007, 04:50 PM
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SECTION 4. JUDICIAL OFFICES
(a) On the effective date of this Constitution,
Associate Judges and magistrates shall become Circuit JudgeS and Associate Judges, respectively, of their Circuit Courts. All laws and rules of court theretofore applicable to Associate Judges and magistrates shall remain in force and be applicable to the persons in their new offices until changed by the General Assembly or the Supreme Court, as the case may be.
(b) (Removed)
(c) (Removed)
(d) Until otherwise provided by law and except to the extent that the authority is inconsistent with Section 8 of Article VII, the

"[Circuit Courts shall continue to exercise the non-judicial functions vested by law as of December 31, 1963in county courts or the judges thereof.]"

(Source: Illinois Constitution.)

Are they admitting that, they are openly banking on the private books of the banksing system? Maybe, i'm reading it wrong. Here is Section 8:



SECTION 8. BRANCH BANKING
Branch banking shall be authorized only by law approved by three-fifths of the members voting on the question or amajority of the members elected, whichever is greater, in each house of the General Assembly.

(Source: Illinois Constitution.)


So, where could I prove there are involved with there "partners(foregin exchange)" in crime?

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Phil
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I am jumping on that one - the judges sitting en banc.

http://www.suijuris.net/forum/court/...d-against.html

I found the case in the email I got this morning.

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>When new Federal Judges are hired (nominated by the President and later
>confirmed by the Senate) after hearings by the Senate Judiciary
>Committee -- after they go through that hiring procedure in Washington
>-- they are taken back to Washington and are taken into private seminars
>that are sponsored by the United States Department of Justice. It is in
>these seminars that new Federal Judges are taught and trained "how to"
>manage their criminal proceedings so as to avoid reversible error ,
>i.e., absence of counsel and trial procedure, etc. They are taught and
>trained what the Supreme Court of the United States wants for perfecting
>due process. They are given Supreme Court cases to study --and sitting
>next to that new Judge in these seminars is their Appeals Court Justice
>(who will be auditing appeals coming out of their trial court),
>confirming that the information being taught and presented by Justice
>Department lawyers is true and correct and that "Things will be done
>this way."
>
>They are given a "Bench Book" to take with them, giving the new Judge
>guidance on handling problems as they arise on the bench. Finally, the
>interesting part comes: They are taught how to manage "Tax Protester"
>trials -- violations of Title 26. Federal Judges have been instructed
>that the Supreme Court ruled in 1896 in a case called Davis vs. Elmira
>Savings, 161 U.S. 275
that banks are instrumentalities of the Congress.



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Old 01-31-2007, 12:47 PM
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Did you look at what was between Sections 4 and 8 in that addendum section, and notice anything like that they were referring to altogether different things totally unrelated to the judiciary??

Did you see anything in the addendum part about the Judiciary that says anything about banking or even better in the actual part of the constitution referring to the Judiciary????

Did it maybe cross your mind that Illinois had to alter its constitution to allow for branch banking and then implement laws to allow for it??


Merrill

It would help if you got the quote right. It is “instrumentalities of the Federal Government ”, for precisely the reason that National Banks are chartered by the Federal Gov’t/Comptroller of the Currency, and Federal law takes precedence over, and trumps, state law, which was what that case was all about.
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Did you look at what was between Sections 4 and 8 in that addendum section, and notice anything like that they were referring to altogether different things totally unrelated to the judiciary??

Did you see anything in the addendum part about the Judiciary that says anything about banking or even better in the actual part of the constitution referring to the Judiciary????

Did it maybe cross your mind that Illinois had to alter its constitution to allow for branch banking and then implement laws to allow for it??


Merrill

It would help if you got the quote right. It is “instrumentalities of the Federal Government ”, for precisely the reason that National Banks are chartered by the Federal Gov’t/Comptroller of the Currency, and Federal law takes precedence over, and trumps, state law, which was what that case was all about.


Thanks. Your comments are well unwelcome. This is a learning experience and its grand to have you around (I don't think so.).

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Thanks. Your comments are well unwelcome. This is a learning experience and its grand to have you around (I don't think so.).

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Amen.............
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I know, having people point out the obvious and rational just takes all the fun out of it doesn't it.
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I know, having people point out the obvious and rational just takes all the fun out of it doesn't it.


Well, if it was then, I don't believe I would be asking. Wait a minute! I just learned something, didn't I? You better not believe the obvious or we might all be in trouble!

Did you know the truth BEFORE someone taught YOU how to think? Wait a minute! I learned something else... You've NEVER had a mind of your own and I BELIEVE you can not teach me unless you have not been taught! Or is that the OTHER way around? Were you taught HOW TO think? I believe so.

So, let's get this right. YOU BELIEVE you know. I'm learning HOW TO know. YOU were taught to think. YOU don't have your OWN thoughts. So, your an agent to your own mind. Make's since to me.

MRG, what do you think of this guy? He know to much or not enough about himself? I think (my own thoughts) that's pretty obvious!

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I know, having people point out the obvious and rational just takes all the fun out of it doesn't it.

Saddly this is true all too often. Thank you for your no bull**** contribution.
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Thank You....

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Saddly this is true all too often. Thank you for your no bull**** contribution.


Thank's. Most appericated.

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