1ST. Question

[JFRogers01]

Are they Attorneys IN Law or rather Attorneys AT Law. and what are the ramifications.

Thanks.
John Fitzgerald:
Expressly reserving all liberty's.

[joseph sugarman]

It is an Attorney-in-law if it is married to your sister or brother as appropriate.

[JFRogers01]

I see you are "unplugged". Really? Do you think, or read?

Positive Law is the law, any thing else is CODE. an attorney can not be in the law, on the land. Thats why they stand "AT" the BAR.

[joseph sugarman]

Watch out everyone. We have another poster with no sense of humor.

[Shoonra]

It's Attorney-at-law. And that distinguishes it from some other (uncommon) forms such as attorney-in-fact.

An attorney is someone who represents another. The word is related, oddly enough, to tournament, where the contestants represent someone -- such as their town, their school, their country.

An attorney-at-law is a lawyer who, among other duties, presents pleadings for his client.

An attorney-in-fact is someone who is given "power of attorney" -- for example, in making health decisions or financial decisions for someone who cannot handle this burden for himself.

[Extramural]

Originally Posted by Shoonra

It's Attorney-at-law. And that distinguishes it from some other (uncommon) forms such as attorney-in-fact.

An attorney is someone who represents another. The word is related, oddly enough, to tournament, where the contestants represent someone -- such as their town, their school, their country.

An attorney-at-law is a lawyer who, among other duties, presents pleadings for his client.

An attorney-in-fact is someone who is given "power of attorney" -- for example, in making health decisions or financial decisions for someone who cannot handle this burden for himself.

An attorney-in-fact can actually act as someone else, using the power in the Power of Attorney.
This includes (but the judges don't want you to know this) appearing in court AS the party granting the power. When doing this, one would say: "I am here as JOHN DOE, and absent any individual capacity, pursuant with this Notarized Power of Attorney."

The judge can kick and scream, but if you hold your ground, there's not a damn thing he can do but threaten you.

[Notorial dissent]

You are confused. With a power of attorney, you can retain an attorney to represent the issuer and give instructions to the attorney about what to do, providing the POA grants you that authority, but you cannot appear in court as the issuer, no power of attorney extends that far, and it is otherwise called the unlicenced practice of law.

[Sharing Lights]

Originally Posted by Notorial dissent

You are confused. With a power of attorney, you can retain an attorney to represent the issuer and give instructions to the attorney about what to do, providing the POA grants you that authority, but you cannot appear in court as the issuer, no power of attorney extends that far, and it is otherwise called the unlicenced practice of law.

Hold, important issue.

"unlicensed practice of law"

Which law forbids one to appear on behalf on another,
not being a member of the State's Bar?

I understand that lawyers try to get us on the monetary issue i.e.
profit during the representation.

What about the cases when we hold the Delegated Power of Representation
(and POA or Power of Council) and make no profit in Court?



By the way,

gave a great response.
Whoever got upset is just not happy "-in-life;"
forget "in" or "at" -law.

Usually that is a sign that "in" is not granted too often.

[Sharing Lights]

http://www.suijuris.net/forum/court/...courts-59.html

Post # 582

Dear ND and all:

What may classify as unauthorized practice of law there,
providing that the contract is between non-lawyers?

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[JFRogers01]

I sent this letter to all party"s in my Friend of the court case, Judge, Prosecuting attorney for the county,F.O.C (case worker and prosecuting attorney for F.O.C.) Right to the county bar(FLY) association, Except the case worker. This puts them right back behind the bar were they belong. They are not ATTORNEY'S "IN" LAW But rather ATTORNEY'S AT LAW.




For the Record.
The military shall, in all cases and at all times, be in strict subordination to the civil power.
In matters of Law and commerce, all issues operate in truth.
Demand for truth is made, of all parties or interests, for full disclosure.




John Liberty: family Doe. michigan-state.
general post office flint-city. near [48503]
to the federal circuit.
to the Confederation united States of America.


Regarding: case number; 78-8765-dm



Dear M@#!* F*%$#!, Esquire.

This is actual notification that by and through this correspondence, I John Liberty: family Doe.
have withdrawn, canceled, invalidated and made void and of no effect, legal or otherwise, any and all previous, present or future actual or presumed power-of-attorney or power of attorney, given or presumed to have been given to or authorization inferred, unto you or any other private BAR ASSOCIATION agent, member, client or other party of interest!

Mark My Words:
You commercial entities or persons are unknown to Me; I know you Not; you do Not Represent Me,
and if you thought that you did - You Are Fired!

That I in my sovereign status, have no contractual or other relationship with you, therefore your
vexatious harassment is a foreign private trespass;

so done, this day, by the suitor:

L.S.

This seventieth day of july, two-thousand seven. By:__ _____________________,suitor.
Expressly Reserving All Antecedent Liberties.

John Liberty: family Doe.
michigan- state

Attention: notary.
general post-office.
registered mail_______________ registered mail to the federal circuit.
Pennsylvania
Confederation united States of America.
near [17401]