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Old 08-08-2007, 07:45 AM
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I herd a quote from a person, it's from The first page of some Code book. I didn't get the name of.

It go's something like this:

No new law created, Non repealed.
It is Presumed to be the law unless rebutted.

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Old 08-08-2007, 09:03 AM
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You have not asked a question with this post. I assume you are looking for an explanation of that which you quoted. Since, as you state, it was at the beginning of some code book, I believe it refers to the following. A code book is only prima facie law, an ordered representation of that which was passed by the legislative body at various times. It might be an abosulutely accurate restatement of the public law as passed, or it might not. But, unless rebutted as an absolutely accurate representation of the public law, it stands as effective.
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Old 08-08-2007, 11:32 AM
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May be an old copy of The "U.S. Code"
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Old 08-08-2007, 02:39 PM
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I herd a quote from a person, it's from The first page of some Code book. I didn't get the name of.

It go's something like this:

No new law created, Non repealed.
It is Presumed to be the law unless rebutted.

Thanks John Fitzgerald:
Expressly reserving all liberty's.

I love it! "I heard from a person who read some book". Priceless!!

Confusing. All statutes are so forth, no matter how un-constitutional, are law until one challanges it. You just don't read it, say that "its all a bunch of bs, I don't have to follow it". Thats not how it works. You have to get before a court, and challange it. Sometime people win, sometime not.

And, if your going to run around listening to your bothers cousins sister who was adopted, that read "some book", you may want to watch your step. Reseach it, and then you know it to be fact. It will be a COLD day in hell before I take ANYONE"S word, especially a layman, on what the law is or should be.
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Old 08-08-2007, 04:44 PM
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Priceless UH?

Easy Killer!
I was try to nail down were it might located.
You can come down off your priceless pedestal. Your reading into the few words i did write. I don't know were you came up with all that about the adopted cousin Thing! Oh and why would I really want to go into there court and argue anything pray tell. I am the court as a sovereign.

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I love it! "I heard from a person who read some book". Priceless!!

Confusing. All statutes are so forth, no matter how un-constitutional, are law until one challanges it. You just don't read it, say that "its all a bunch of bs, I don't have to follow it". Thats not how it works. You have to get before a court, and challange it. Sometime people win, sometime not.

And, if your going to run around listening to your bothers cousins sister who was adopted, that read "some book", you may want to watch your step. Reseach it, and then you know it to be fact. It will be a COLD day in hell before I take ANYONE"S word, especially a layman, on what the law is or should be.
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Old 08-08-2007, 04:53 PM
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Easy Killer!
I was try to nail down were it might located.
You can come down off your priceless pedestal. Your reading into the few words i did write. I don't know were you came up with all that about the adopted cousin Thing! Oh and why would I really want to go into there court and argue anything pray tell. I am the court as a sovereign.
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You are talking circles here. Either your going to court or not. Doesn't matter that you THINK you're sovereign, the judge knows you're not. More research, alot more is needed on your part before you even contemplate stepping into the real world of law. Good luck, I think you will need every bit of it you can find.
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Old 08-09-2007, 03:03 AM
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The war is between your ears

Golffertrap why would you say I need more research, before I step into the "real world of law" your the one thats convinced you are not Sovereign. and for your Information the real world of law is God's law everything else is just a CODE. Of course the judge is going to "PRESUME" I'm not Sovereign. Thats the first thing they teach administrative judges. Thats the their power over you. For you to THINK or presume that they have subject matter jurisdiction over you. They cannot move forward with out your consent. unless it's a capital crime!
I never said I wanted to go into their courts Golfertrap, and yes it does matter, that I think, and know, I am Sovereign. It is the most important thing you can believe in next to GOD. Unless you find comfort in being a slave of the District of Columbia. I'M NOT!

I do not give tides to the religion of the corporations. I haven't filled out a 1040 for over 15yrs. I do not pay into the social security system. I do not receive mail delivery to my home, or a PO. Box, or general delivery. My mail is sent to the "General post office" for my town.(main post office) if it is not addressed properly it gets sent back. there are two side to the post office, a private side and a commercial side.
If I have to be force into a court room I will not step into the Bar unless under force. everything on the other side of that rail or bar is the judges chambers.

[No new law created, Non repealed.
It is Presumed to be the law unless rebutted.]

Their whole system is presumed, or presumptive law.

The STATE Courts and the U.S. District courts are both False Religions or real religions of the anti-Christ.

Your God where's black and numbers you!
My God where's white and names me!

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You are talking circles here. Either your going to court or not. Doesn't matter that you THINK you're sovereign, the judge knows you're not. More research, alot more is needed on your part before you even contemplate stepping into the real world of law. Good luck, I think you will need every bit of it you can find.

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Old 08-09-2007, 08:37 AM
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Old 08-09-2007, 08:53 AM
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Old 08-09-2007, 01:12 PM
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Golffertrap why would you say I need more research, before I step into the "real world of law" your the one thats convinced you are not Sovereign. and for your Information the real world of law is God's law everything else is just a CODE. Of course the judge is going to "PRESUME" I'm not Sovereign. Thats the first thing they teach administrative judges. Thats the their power over you. For you to THINK or presume that they have subject matter jurisdiction over you. They cannot move forward with out your consent. unless it's a capital crime!
I never said I wanted to go into their courts Golfertrap, and yes it does matter, that I think, and know, I am Sovereign. It is the most important thing you can believe in next to GOD. Unless you find comfort in being a slave of the District of Columbia. I'M NOT!

I do not give tides to the religion of the corporations. I haven't filled out a 1040 for over 15yrs. I do not pay into the social security system. I do not receive mail delivery to my home, or a PO. Box, or general delivery. My mail is sent to the "General post office" for my town.(main post office) if it is not addressed properly it gets sent back. there are two side to the post office, a private side and a commercial side.
If I have to be force into a court room I will not step into the Bar unless under force. everything on the other side of that rail or bar is the judges chambers.

[No new law created, Non repealed.
It is Presumed to be the law unless rebutted.]

Their whole system is presumed, or presumptive law.

The STATE Courts and the U.S. District courts are both False Religions or real religions of the anti-Christ.

Your God where's black and numbers you!
My God where's white and names me!

Thanks BY:John Fitzgerald:
Expressly reserving all liberty's

Show me a court from the years 2000 up that recognize you as a true sovereign, and I'll bend over and kiss my own ass.

Like I said, you better hit the books. "Gods Law" is only in YOUR head. The ENTIRE "sovereign" idea is flawed, like all "gods laws" type theory. Maybe, if we build a time machine, go back to the 1700's, we could make it work. But, we live in a different time, and it just don't work the way the bible or your buddies "well" written books tell you how things "should" be. It is what it is, learn to deal with it, I have and do very, very well against not only government, but self proclaimed "sovereigns".
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