
08-09-2007, 06:16 AM
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Quick everyone, read and then download the two pieces of paper from the above post. They are the silver bullet everyone has been searching and/or waiting for. They must be real because they are printed in blue ink, and have a real seal on them, and say what must be important, even though unintelligable, stuff.
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08-09-2007, 06:34 AM
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You said it Mr. Sugerman unintelligible, and it's spelled with an I not an A.
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Originally Posted by joseph sugarman
Quick everyone, read and then download the two pieces of paper from the above post. They are the silver bullet everyone has been searching and/or waiting for. They must be real because they are printed in blue ink, and have a real seal on them, and say what must be important, even though unintelligable, stuff.
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08-09-2007, 09:50 PM
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Thank you for that. Good work!
Let us know what issues. From your court anyway. A lot of people think it important what issues from CIT but you can just show us evidence of service.
Regards,
David Merrill.
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08-10-2007, 02:43 AM
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Mental Jujitsu
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What an immense collection of utter and complete legalistic gibberish, outright silliness, and complete uselessness . It isn’t even good fiction. Aside from counterfeit of judicial process, which is a felony both in the state of Pennsylvania, and Federally, the document is nonsense from beginning to end. In the first place, there never has been or was anything called “Confederation united States of America”, so appealing to a federal circuit thereof is pointless, nor, had there ever been can they just be magically resurrected. In the Second, the Court of International Trade does not sit in the District of Columbia or Harrisburg, and never has, and further has no authority to hear any such matter regardless of where it does sit, it is a court of very limited and special jurisdiction, established under the Constitution of 1789. Third, the Articles of Confederation ceased to exist as of 1789 so any appeal to them is moot. So other than being a waste of bandwidth whoopee.
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08-10-2007, 05:38 AM
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After taking a quick look at the garbage posted by you, JFROGERS, I determined only a stream of consciousness reponse was required, which obviates the necessity of an editorial read on my part: typographical errors often result.
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08-10-2007, 08:07 AM
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FYI;
You guys are just shootin the messenger here.
If you truly want to look into what JFRogers01 is posting here you should go directly to the source of those documents and try speaking to the author.
Go here.
http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web...d=15212&cmd=tc
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08-10-2007, 11:28 PM
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My Version of the substance of 2nd link.
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I try to cover all the angles, leaving a path
for greater protection of Rights and
less harsh confrontation with the Authorities,
cutting off their angle of finding a possible violation,
as they hold the law and interpretation of it.
I do not like cutting off ties completely here,
when a lawyer may be useful in criminal cases.
Unless one rises to a level of being able to
defend his/her Rights vs. criminal charges,
it is beyond reason leaving no path
to the official version of law and its representatives.
My venue is not to alienate ourselves from
the Government and/or sever the ties
but a deeper approach and long-run approach:
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1. to make it more accountable to the People
and
2. Reinforcing our Rights!
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Not only that may be wiser
but also, we may impact the Government more
since it has to recognize us, while
it may not even acknowledge those who
renounced their Citizenship.
Yes, instead of blunt - head to head confrontation
with Goliath, I maneuver my "army" to his rear
to gain most advantage, considering his size.
I prefer not gallant and colorful efforts,
as justified as they may be but
a Remedy that can work with least amount
of loses and maximum Rights re-gained,
while direct confrontation without
angles of wisdom and long-run approach left
may defeat the purpose prematurely.
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I use an Esoteric approach of nourishing
the seed till it becomes a powerful Oak
as opposed to loudly screaming,
"look what a beautiful seed is growing,"
while it is barely off the soil and
all pigs can trample it with ease.
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May be amended and polished...
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To the State's BAR and its MEMBERS:
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This is actual notification that by and through this correspondence,
I _______________________________________:
family ___________________________________,
by: or as d/b/a ___________________________
or ______________________________________,
have not Delegated A Power of Authority and Representation to you
in accordance With All of my Rights and Liberties Reserved Without Prejudice.
I also, put you on Notice that neither I nor Constitutional laws recognize
Contracts of Adhesion.
I, by this Notice, hereto, have withdrawn, canceled, invalidated and
made void and of no effect, legal or otherwise, any and
all previous, present or presumed power-of-attorney or power of attorney,
given or presumed to have been given to or
authorization inferred, unto you or any other,
private BAR ASSOCIATION agent,
member, client or other party of interest
unless I grant the specific and limited Authority in writing
upon your guarantee to represent my Interests in my presence and
not the interests of your BAR ASSOCIATION
of which I am not a member of and therefore,
do not have Equal Access to and Equal Rights,
which Prejudices me and my Rights contrary to the
basic foundation of the Supreme Land of America -
the laws of Equality of All Citizens
without Discrimination and Bias!
Mark My Words and Intent:
You, commercial entities or persons are unknown to Me;
I know you Not;
you do Not Represent Me,
and do not have such Authority
in conflict with all the Provisions as stated above,
including God/Nature given UN-alienable Rights,
Bill of Rights,
Declaration of Independence,
International Treaties,
and Rights of Free-Born and Free-Living;
that I, in my Sovereign Status, have no contractual or
other relationship with you,
therefore any, unauthorized vexatious harassment
is a foreign, private trespass;
So Entered on
This day of _______, month of ______________, year of two-thousand seven.
By: __________________________________________________ ______________
All Rights and Liberties Reserved
Without Prejudice
I __________________________________________:
Family______________________________________
____________________________________ - State.
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for educational and entertainment purposes
is the clause
to help lawyers * swallow and improve their digestion,
eventually, leading to their, excretory bodily functions.
The real issue may be
how to help the, Supreme Land to excrete attorn-eye-yee
of its soil, as scent implies toxicity and need for enema?
Buena appetite, minions of the State Bar,
we want you to *swallow well.
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08-11-2007, 07:07 AM
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Can anyone see what is wrong with this picture?? (See attachment)
Hint: The CIT avoided testimony. Notice how the clerk is telling us that the Chief Judge reviewed the papers yet the clerk is returning the filing fee? It was made quite clear at the time, by returning the filing with the filing fee, along with a copy of the laws saying the clerk was obligated to file the papers and allow us to get a ruling like the clerk was giving, that a judge's ruling on jurisdiction - even against hearing the matter was worth the $250 filing fee.
The clerk sent it back a second time.
The clerk's judgment was in error. The clerk should not be signing the judgment - especially if it had been ruled on by the chief judge there at the CIT. We did not send it for a clerk's judgment. The clerk testified for the judge - twice. The clerk telling us what the judge said is hearsay - inadmissible considering the chief judge is presumed to be fully capable of forming and signing that opinion.
So you are probably correct that CIT has jurisdiction. They just do not want to admit it and will pull something like this...
But if you know what you are doing; that will be the judgment in itself. - That the clerk makes a judicial judgment for the magistrate pretending to be a judicial "chief judge". You must form assize:
http://www.ck10.uscourts.gov/opinions/06/06-6238.pdf
assize
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On appeal, Mr. Smith cites no other statutory basis for removal. Creatively, but frivolously, he does argue that the case should now be removed from this court to a court of his own making, the “one supreme Court,” apparently established by Mr. Smith and his associates on September 4, 2006 (after the district court remanded his case to the state court). There is no legal basis for that request.
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On September 4, 2006 a jury of peers convened and formed the Instruction for the Tenth Circuit.
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Accordingly, we AFFIRM the district court’s decision. Appellant’s motion to proceed in forma pauperis is denied.
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And like with the CIT we get a very clever obfuscation from the justices. They made slur comments on the people forming a jury, but in the last sentence adjudicate that they never even heard the matter.
Regards,
David Merrill.
Last edited by David Merrill : 08-11-2007 at 07:17 AM.
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08-11-2007, 10:57 PM
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Mental Jujitsu
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Merrill, is there some part of the clerk telling you that the the Chief Judge said it wasn’t an acceptable filing and telling the clerk to return it that you missed? There is no order or anything else there other than the court telling you that they do not have jurisdiction to hear that type of suit. The CIT is not an appeals court, and cannot hear anything from a lower court, your idiot is wasting his time and money, but then the appeals court has already told them that haven’t they?
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