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exactly!
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Originally Posted by Livefire
And no law of Jubilee to set you free either!!!
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Deuteronomy 15:1-3
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Deu 15:1 At the end4480, 7093 of every seven7651 years8141 thou shalt make6213 a release.8059
Deu 15:2 And this2088 is the manner1697 of the release:8059 Every3605 creditor1167, 4874, 3027 that834 lendeth5383 aught unto his neighbor7453 shall release8058 it; he shall not3808 exact5065 (853) it of his neighbor,7453 or of his brother;251 because3588 it is called7121 the LORD's3068 release.8059
Deu 15:3 Of (853) a foreigner5237 thou mayest exact5065 it again: but that which834 is1961 thine with854 thy brother251 thine hand3027 shall release;8058
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H5237
נכרי
nokrîy
nok-ree'
From H5235 (second form); strange, in a variety of degrees and applications (foreign, non-relative, adulterous, different, wonderful): - alien, foreigner, outlandish, strange (-r, woman).
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H5235
נכר נכר
neker nôker
neh'-ker, no'-ker
From H5234; something strange, that is, unexpected calamity: - strange.
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My paper copy includes "...feign self to be another..."
And therefore the response to the legal identity is essential. To answer PSholz' question, why would Randy Lee's abatement work? My presumption, after many R4C and abatements for misnomer in that style myself, is that Randy Lee had never testified to being the artificial entity on the paperwork the IRS agent left on his door.
I was involved at the time with the Christian Jural Society as they called it. I was the Scribe for the Colorado Jural Society which was spearheaded by several people in constant touch with Randy Lee, and we even had them come out to lecture. That is to say John Joseph SAUNDERS - stage name John Quade ( Every Which Way but Loose fame as leader of the Black Widows and brunt end of the monkey flipping the bird...)
Here we should take another look at Rule E(8):
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(8) Restricted Appearance.
An appearance to defend against an admiralty and maritime claim with respect to which there has issued process in rem, or process of attachment and garnishment, may be expressly restricted to the defense of such claim, and in that event is not an appearance for the purposes of any other claim with respect to which such process is not available or has not been served.
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Conditioning bites us all in the butt the moment we allow one contract to boil over into another - assumpsit. Just because in the scope of one contract agreement, we make a promise to perform, that does not mean that an IRS agent can pull that promise out of that context and into a new context.
The perfect example is Judge Roy Bean - even today, they are infatuated with me on Quatloos:
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Originally Posted by Judge Roy Bean
Having access to another computer on another network, I can at least view the sui site without alarms going off.
It's good to know that Van Pelt's gibberish machine is still working:
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The mark of a true attorney in a black robe right there. He imposes a legal identity upon me, one that I do not wear myself. It must be terribly frustrating for him how thin that conditioning gets, the more he tries to make it stick - especially over cyberspace.
For instance you might call Randy Lee and don't be surprised if he says, "Good afternoon, in whose name do you come." If you say your name instead of, "In the name of Jesus Christ." - he will probably hang up on you. The IRS agent left the notice/summons on the door because Randy Lee had already removed the house numbers and mailbox from in front of his home. No evidence he was resident in California and domiciled in the District's corporation - the State of California.
Regards,
David Merrill.
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11-21-2007, 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Livefire
And no law of Jubilee to set you free either!!!
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I understand African Kings would sometimes be forced onto slave ships and if they did not accept food, water, or anything else for 72 hours they would be thrown overboard before the ships set sail.
Always object when they say you are under arrest. Say something like "arrest is not a god to me", "you do not have my permission to make a religious decision for me", "I am not under anything because I am not a pagan".
Anyone who is like Randy Lee and gets thrown in jail do not sit on their cot, eat, drink, bond out, use the phone. Sit on the floor if you sit. Accept nothing, unless forced by threat of violence. Conditionally accept what they offer only if they give proof that you are their property. Keep saying you been kidnapped, ask for social security numbers because you need witnesses and piss and crap on the floor. You will quickly be thrown overboard.
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United States never held any municipal sovereignty, jurisdiction, or right of soil in Alabama or any of the new states which were formed ... The United States has no Constitutional capacity to exercise municipal jurisdiction, sovereignty or eminent domain, within the limits of a state or elsewhere, except in the cases in which it is expressly granted ...
[Pollard v. Hagan, 44 U.S.C. 213, 221, 223]
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11-21-2007, 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by David Merrill
Nowhere in the evidence was there any indication that I was using the legal artifice - David Merrill Van Pelt. If there would have been, then I would have not abated for misnomer.
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Thanks for that clarification.
I have a question about "acquiring the "exclusive original cognizance" of the US".
If one were to do a cancellatura and deposit the original SS card, DL etc. for US agents to pick up and also put a non statutory abaitment in the same miscellaneous jacket, would that mean that any agents/members/principals of the US should automatically be aware of the abaitment without the need to serve them with it and is this a valid approach?
Thanks.
First appearance of this signature in this post is coincidental and unrelated to it's content. The signature was prompted by a line of denials, last of which was yesterday.
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11-21-2007, 08:04 AM
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David, that was a gem you posted!!!! Of a foreigner you may exact it again..... I guess the shysters ARE acting in a lawful manner after all.....they consider us alien chattels to the corporation created by them and their financiers!
Rottweiler, if ya piss and crap on the floor, you might get a trip to the psycho ward and they pump ya full of drugs. Dont know if that insanity tactic of King David's is gonna work as well today! LOL I might use the facilities under TDC.
I also thought JRB felt kinda sorta welcome here! LOL I never dissed him and found some of his postings to be informative. No need for him to be a little candy ass and be afraid to show his cyber presence.....We dont bite, at least not too hard! ROFLOL
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11-21-2007, 09:58 AM
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If you want to set up housekeeping go right ahead but you will owe them. Since you have nothing to pay them with they are going to sell you.
They come in as UN foreign aid workers because there is no government and they must guarantee your health from cradle to grave. If you were to die in their custody there is going to be a investigation. When it is realized that there was no jurisdiction over you they could lose their contract and worse.
I was in jail one time. As soon as they locked the door I pissed on the floor. It was a long time ago but by dumb luck I refused to contract with them and I was released within 30 minutes and never bothered again on that issue.
I have found out since then that whomever runs the jail knows the law and everything is recorded. They can hold you for 72 hours and if you will not contract with them within that time and something happens to you like another inmate beats you up or you get sick they are personally responsible.
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Originally Posted by Livefire
Rottweiler, if ya piss and crap on the floor, you might get a trip to the psycho ward and they pump ya full of drugs. Dont know if that insanity tactic of King David's is gonna work as well today! LOL I might use the facilities under TDC.
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United States never held any municipal sovereignty, jurisdiction, or right of soil in Alabama or any of the new states which were formed ... The United States has no Constitutional capacity to exercise municipal jurisdiction, sovereignty or eminent domain, within the limits of a state or elsewhere, except in the cases in which it is expressly granted ...
[Pollard v. Hagan, 44 U.S.C. 213, 221, 223]
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11-21-2007, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by rottweiler
If you want to set up housekeeping go right ahead but you will owe them. Since you have nothing to pay them with they are going to sell you.
They come in as UN foreign aid workers because there is no government and they must guarantee your health from cradle to grave. If you were to die in their custody there is going to be a investigation. When it is realized that there was no jurisdiction over you they could lose their contract and worse.
I was in jail one time. As soon as they locked the door I pissed on the floor. It was a long time ago but by dumb luck I refused to contract with them and I was released within 30 minutes and never bothered again on that issue.
I have found out since then that whomever runs the jail knows the law and everything is recorded. They can hold you for 72 hours and if you will not contract with them within that time and something happens to you like another inmate beats you up or you get sick they are personally responsible.
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LOL! That almost sounds like fun! I may have to try that out. Maybe AFTER the holidays...
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11-21-2007, 11:00 AM
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Rottie,
I try to avoid things like jail! LOL Perhaps I'll try that tactic if I ever find myself in that position and have nothing to lose and everything to gain. I have heard from folks I know who have been to jail that piss on the floor in a drunk tank is a common everyday occurence! I would appreciate a link or something to that info concerning the jail's that you are referring to.
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11-21-2007, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Livefire
I have heard from folks I know who have been to jail that piss on the floor in a drunk tank is a common everyday occurence! I would appreciate a link or something to that info concerning the jail's that you are referring to.
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I was basically commenting on what David Merrill said:
"Conditioning bites us all in the butt the moment we allow one contract to boil over into another - assumpsit. Just because in the scope of one contract agreement, we make a promise to perform, that does not mean that an IRS agent can pull that promise out of that context and into a new context."
I am not saying you can not use the toilet in the cell or going on the floor all by itself will set you free. I was just pointing out how people can wreck all the good work they did by refusing in the first place and then turning around and setting up housekeeping.
They can hold you for 72 hours and they are going to work on you. If that time expires and they still don't have a contract they must let you go. I am just saying you will get out in record time like less than 8 hours if you are good at it and they will most likely never bother you again.
God bless you if you never go to jail but if you have to pass thru the fire I hope this helps.
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[Pollard v. Hagan, 44 U.S.C. 213, 221, 223]
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11-21-2007, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Slavic38
If one were to do a cancellatura and deposit the original SS card, DL etc. for US agents to pick up and also put a non statutory abaitment in the same miscellaneous jacket, would that mean that any agents/members/principals of the US should automatically be aware of the abaitment without the need to serve them with it and is this a valid approach?
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I doubt you will be able to avoid any presumptions in the booking area. Finally they might give you a legal name and if you sign nothing without correcting it, you can abate for misnomer but lose the bail bond. If I was to do that over again I would write in that the clerk of court has to return the bail bond in ten days - write it into the bond agreement.
No subsequent problems but I never got my bond money back. Looking at the agreement, I agreed that the court could keep it if I Refused for Cause and never appeared.
Regards,
David Merrill.
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11-21-2007, 08:09 PM
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That went right over my head... "write it into the bond agreement"???
My main question was more for a basic term definition.
If "acquiring the "exclusive original cognizance" of the US" meant that any agents/members/principals of the US should automatically be aware of whatever the contents of the jacket are without the need to serve them with the contents personaly/individually? In other words is putting it into the jacket the equivalent of serving each and every agents/members/principals of the US with it, not in the sense of an actual notice where thay are in fact noticed, but that they are, ... say, presumed to be aware of whatever the contents are, or something to that effect?
I, quite sure that in reality they won't be aware, but technically, is that what "acquiring the "exclusive original cognizance" of the US" is supposed to mean?
Thanks again for letting me "pick Your brain".
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