Randy Lee Rebuts IRS

[David Merrill]

Originally Posted by Slavic38

That went right over my head... "write it into the bond agreement"???

My main question was more for a basic term definition.

If "acquiring the "exclusive original cognizance" of the US" meant that any agents/members/principals of the US should automatically be aware of whatever the contents of the jacket are without the need to serve them with the contents personaly/individually? In other words is putting it into the jacket the equivalent of serving each and every agents/members/principals of the US with it, not in the sense of an actual notice where thay are in fact noticed, but that they are, ... say, presumed to be aware of whatever the contents are, or something to that effect?

I, quite sure that in reality they won't be aware, but technically, is that what "acquiring the "exclusive original cognizance" of the US" is supposed to mean?

Thanks again for letting me "pick Your brain".

Examine the clerk instruction attached.

You simply refuse it for cause but copy the instruction to the presenter so they know if they proceed with the cause, you can simply prove the cognizance of the US.


Regards,

David Merrill.

[rottweiler]

IRS Suffers Defeat: Kahre tax trial Wages Paid in Gold & Silver

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2007/10/366287.shtml

[Livefire]

Jury Nullification at work!!!! WOOHOO!!!

[Slavic38]

Here's some other info that's IRS specific:

By signing your 1040 income tax form you actually make the statement that you are indeed a government employee. It’s hidden in the fine print at the bottom of the form. You declared that it was “true” that you were “under penalties of perjury”. Yet, you can't be under penalties of perjury unless you've taken an oath. In this case the oath you took to become a government employee. It doesn't matter to them if you've actually taken the oath, it only matters that you say you did, and you signed your returns stating you did. They got you, and it’s all quite legal. Now they can tax you as much as they want. Pretty slick huh?

Yes, paying income taxes is voluntary. You have to voluntarily swear the oath of being a government employee. No one can coerce you into doing that. It has to be of your own free will. Once you sign that oath the voluntary part of it is over. You HAVE to pay. It is your sworn “duty” to pay. You unknowingly took an oath that made you a government employee. And they won't allow you to testify in court that you are not a government employee.

But you’re an honest man and honest men are obligated to correct their mistakes so I suppose you could write to the head of the IRS and explain the mistake you made signing the form and promise to never make that mistake again. Stating clearly that you are NOT a government employee and have never taken an oath of government service. Thereby, now that you understand the definitions of the words you most certainly AREN’T “under penalties of perjury” because you are NOT a government employee.

Then, next year when tax time comes around write up a little statement saying that the enclosed information is true and sign that instead of the 1040 form. Attach that to your 1040 and pay your taxes.

The IRS is a frightening agency to go against in any way. They are indeed above the law and don’t have to play by the rules you and I have to play by. So I don’t advocate not paying your taxes. But I do advocate the truth. So, I don’t see any harm in telling them the truth about your government employment. Continue to pay your taxes but give then the real reason you’re paying. Because you are scarred to death of them and what they can do to you if you don’t pay. Of course that’s called extortion.

The term “jurisdiction” must be understood by the public. And it must be understood in its historical context. Jurisdiction is a simple matter. You either take an oath to do something or you don’t take an oath to do something. No one can coerce you into taking an oath – it HAS to be voluntary.

jurisdiction means “oath spoken”. “Juris”, in the original Latin meaning is “oath”. “Diction” means spoken

Short version: http://www.usavsus.info/US-Understan...risdiction.htm
Long version: http://www.hiscovenantministries.org...risdiction.htm


Nord Davis -- must read!

I can't cut & paste ( I just did line by line...) because it merges the text from two columns, but page 26 & 27 explaining that under 1942 supreme Court case Clearfield doctrine governments descend to the level of a mere private corporation whenever they use private commercial paper in their business transactions; that is, paper money, credit instruments and checks. Which is why the Internal Revenue Service, Inc. and the Federal Reserve Bank must always be private corporations. So they must adher to UCC. "it cannot compel performance upon its corporate statutes or corporation rules unless it, like any other corporation, is the "holder-in-due-course" of some contract or commercial agreement between it and the one on whom its demands for performance are made, and is willing to produce said document, and to place the same into evidence before trying to enforce its demands, called statutes in this case".

According to Lucy, here is how the IRS tricks you into volunteering into the status of a U.S. individual and

subject of The District which in turn makes you subject to the Jurisdiction of The District. Examine a 1040

form and you will note that mixed in with the Name and Address, where you are to affix the IRS Label that

was on the envelope of IRS forms that they sent you, there is another word Label that really does not

have any logical reason for being there. That word Label has nothing whatever to do with your name and

address! That word has quite another meaning at law. Here is the first definition in Black's Law Dictionary:

"A slip of ribbon, parchment, or paper, attached as a codicil to a deed or other writing to hold the

appended seal." Your signature is your "seal." The 1040 Form is the Label that attaches as a codicil, an

intentional change or modification to a will, deed, contract or other writing. What you are doing when you

sign this Label is to waive those Constitutional Rights extended to us, the posterity of We, The People,

by our Forefathers, and petition for certain privileges extended to subjects, persons, and U.S. individuals of

The District. When you sign this Label, identified as the private corporate Internal Revenue Service, Inc.

1040 Label Form, you are attaching it as a codicil to your claim of the Bill of Rights. and under penalty of

perjury, are agreeing to waive your Common Law rights to Life, liberty and property. You did want it that

way, didn't you?

...So, for twenty years I have, with all the
seriousness of a heart attack, looked at that clerk
straight in the eye and asked, as I pushed their sales
slip back across the counter, "Don't you know that if
you keep sales receipts you have to pay income
taxes?" The clerk can plainly see that I mean
business. Some of them look perplexed. What I
asked did not compute with the limited world in which
they live. I just figure that they are the Perplexed. I
usually walk out leaving them perplexed. I do not ever
recall having one of The Perplexed asking me to
explain myself. Unfortunately for America, there will
always be The Perplexed.
Other clerks cannot tolerate what they suppose to
be a joke in the form of a serious question. Some
laugh uproariously, never suspecting that the joke is
really on them....

And to top it off Internal revenue laws have been repealed in 1939:
http://www.usavsus.info/US-TaxRepealed.html


Look at Exhibit A, it is a copy of the INTERNAL REVENUE CODE February 10th, 1939 [H. R. 2762] [Public, No 1] Chapter 2 At Sec 4. it says the following: “…all such laws and parts of laws codified herein, to the extent they relate exclusively to internal revenue, are repealed, effective, except as provided in Sec. 5.”

Section 5. “Continuance of Existing Law.- Any provision of law in force on the 2nd day of January 1939 corresponding to a provision contained in the Internal Revenue Title shall remain in force until the corresponding provision under such Title takes effect.”

What just happened? It appears that indeed, the internal revenue laws were repealed and saved in the Internal Revenue Title for use to preserve the rights and liabilities that occurred when these internal revenue laws were in effect. But since they were repealed, they no longer applied, after the date of enactment, to anyone unless the liability occurred before the enactment of this statute. In other words, they were moved to the Internal Revenue Title for savings or archive purposes, and that they only applied to those who incurred a liability before the date of enactment.

[David Merrill]

Thanks for that post. Accepting private credit from the Fed makes you a bank. Ergo letter to the Secretary or Commissioner or not, the irrecusable obligation is struck with endorsing paychecks.

The presumption you are a government employee through testifying you have taken an oath may not be directly the Oath that you think. It may be. Maybe not. Just the same, I think it best to stick to facts and that seems a little speculative. The fact is that the Federal Reserve Act provides elastic currency for bankers. If you are not a banker, and you redeem your paychecks in lawful money, then you are more a treasury than a bank.

It is required before you can interact through BOE with the Treasury. That is why one of these paid off the mortgage company and the other did not (attached). Sara Fugue was a banker, the suitor, court of competent jurisdiction is a treasury with rights to the gold seized from the TWEA enemy in 1933.




Regards,

David Merrill.

[Slavic38]

Originally Posted by David Merrill

Thanks for that post.

My pleasure. I want to contribute to the best of my ability.

I want to stress to anyone intrigued to read the Nord Davis -- must read! pdf. at: http://www.freedom-school.com/nord-d...ardon-me-5.pdf

in it's entirety. I just posted parts I found the most useful in a practical sense, but much understanding is there. Like the explanation of proper use of explicit reservation of rights under UCC 1-207 (I knew that one already, but nevertheless it is important).

I just found it myself the other day and it is very, very informative.

This man says: "I am again stipulating with this letter, as with several previous letters over the past 20 years, that I have not filed a federal income tax return since 1969, because I am not a person required to do so under the IRS Code.*


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[Mark]

Maybe I missed something, but after reading Nord Davis' pardon me, but..., I still don't get the following:

...So, for twenty years I have, with all the
seriousness of a heart attack, looked at that clerk
straight in the eye and asked, as I pushed their sales
slip back across the counter, "Don't you know that if
you keep sales receipts you have to pay income
taxes?" The clerk can plainly see that I mean
business. Some of them look perplexed. What I
asked did not compute with the limited world in which
they live. I just figure that they are the Perplexed. I
usually walk out leaving them perplexed. I do not ever
recall having one of The Perplexed asking me to
explain myself. Unfortunately for America, there will
always be The Perplexed.
Other clerks cannot tolerate what they suppose to
be a joke in the form of a serious question. Some
laugh uproariously, never suspecting that the joke is
really on them....

Hypothetically speaking:
say I accept all receipts given to me, and insist on one when not offered one: for the simple purpose of keeping track of all my expenses--I like to know where my money goes. Besides, how could the IRS possibly know if I've accepted a sales receipt or not? Makes no sense to me.

Maybe some one here could enlighten me? Thanks


Peace

[FreeFromContract]

Ownmaster - moved from this thread here...

http://www.suijuris.net/forum/123866-post30.html

Originally Posted by Ownmaster

I already know the answer.

His claim is deficient and is not as good as the Randy Lee abatement.

All of his clients lose in the civil realm and all he does is make an appearance so that no state level criminality attaches.

Ask him about his bond he lost, his scooter... he has never really won.

Since you claim to have knowledge of the differences in both processes, would you mind sharing the specifics of the deficiencies in David's?

[Slavic38]

Originally Posted by Mark

Maybe I missed something, but after reading Nord Davis' pardon me, but..., I still don't get the following:



Hypothetically speaking:
say I accept all receipts given to me, and insist on one when not offered one: for the simple purpose of keeping track of all my expenses--I like to know where my money goes. Besides, how could the IRS possibly know if I've accepted a sales receipt or not? Makes no sense to me.

Maybe some one here could enlighten me? Thanks


Peace

True, it doesn't explain that. I suspect it is because when You keep records and accounting You are considered to be in commerce and lex mercatoria applies (consider reading that whole post at the forum link, it goes into employment vs laboring as a workman etc. I think all said in the post can be found here: http://www.ecclesia.org/truth but that post is well put together):

http://forums.ourchurch.com/viewtopic.php?p=8804&sid=8dcb1ebf2c9add81a2dc39c8f c2f556b
"Buying, Selling, and Trading

Buying, selling, or trading is not necessarily 'commercial activity' or contrary to Scripture. How, and for what purpose you transact, determines whether or not it is considered a 'commercial activity' and contrary to the Law of God. Creating a record, such as the giving or receiving of a receipt, constitutes commercial activity.

Calling yourself 'the owner' (which is a commercial term) constitutes commercial activity, for God is 'The Owner' of everything (Psalm 24:1, Isaiah 44:24, 2 Corinthians 5:18). Charging or paying interest through extended credit for such transactions constitutes commercial activity through 'suretyship' and is contrary to Scripture (Proverbs 6:1-2; 11:15, Romans 13:8, 2 Kings 18:23,31). Advertising to the 'general public' (the secular world, atheists, and other infidels), to sell a product or your labor, constitutes commercial activity and is not favored in Scripture.

It simply has to do with venue and jurisdiction. Are you living the Law in accordance with the One True God of Scripture, or the god of Mercury (the god of commerce)? When operating within your community and with brethren, the use of receipts, records, advertising, profiteering for abundant gain, free government benefits, charging or paying interest, etc., is not necessary and therefore should not be used if you wish to remain non-commercial. All bondmen of Christ should be operating by word of mouth within their community and supporting one another (Romans 13:8).

Other Sales

Someone may ask what one should do if they would like to exchange their possessions for money, such as having a "Garage Sale," "Yard Sale," etc. Well, if one puts such a sign out in front of their home, then this is engaging in commercial activity, because it not only advertises to the secular public, but is advertising that something is for "sale," which is a commercial term, and the "things" all have prices attached to them, which is a mark of a merchant. There is a maxim of law which states, "The payment of the price stands in the place of a sale." And this is one way the government acquires jurisdiction over you, when someone places the burden of a price on things, and when someone makes the payment of that price, that constitutes a "sale," and this is commercial activity. All sales are under the lex mercatoria. The problem with putting a price on anything is that it represents seeking gain.

So, what is one to do? Well, one can place a sign that says, "books," "records," "kitchen supplies," and other such descriptions above the things you are getting rid of. Do not place prices on anything you have. When someone comes up to you and is interested in "buying" something, just ask them to give you whatever they are led by the Spirit to give. Nobody can accuse you of "selling" anything, because you are not advertising a "sale," and you don't have prices on anything! If they feel uncomfortable, and say they don't want to pay less than what it's worth, you can tell them, "Don't worry about that. The Lord provides either through you or others. Those who pay more than enough, make up for those who pay less than enough."

If a policeman says, "you need a permit to have a yard sale," just tell him, "I'm not selling anything." For example, if somebody walked up to a police officer and offered to buy his gun, does that mean the police officer was selling his gun? No. Likewise, if someone walks up to you and offers to buy your book, this does not mean you are selling anything. Would it matter if the policeman had a sign above his gun that said, "Gun"? No. Likewise, if there was a sign hung above some books that said "Books," it does not mean it's for sale.

Final Thoughts on Prices

We got a phone call one time, and the man greeted us in the name of the Lord. He started asking us about prices, and we said we don't have any prices. I got the feeling that he was from the government (IRS, whatever), and he was just testing me out. One of the things he brought up in the conversation is, "Well, how can you do that? How do you balance your accounts payable and your accounts receivable?" And I said, "Well, I don't know what those things are. I don't find, whatever they are, in the Word of God. And, therefore, they must have to do with the concerns of the world, and I'm not concerned with the things of the world. The Lord has freely given and we freely receive from Him, and I do the same. It sounds like a record, and I'm not concerned with that. I don't have to keep a record of what the Lord gives me. He provides for my needs, I don't have to keep track of what he provides for me."

As soon as he said, "accounts payable and accounts receivable," those are terms of the lex mercatoria and we have to stay away from those things. When you keep records then you're concerned with your profits, and what we're doing is not for profit! I'm simply serving the Lord and He'll provide for my needs if He wants me to continue what I'm doing. That's why we don't have to have prices. Prices represent gain, and I'm not here to gain.

Man's maxim of law says, "The payment of the price stands in the place of a sale." So, as soon as you put a price on anything and entered into a sale, the lex mercatoria will regulate that. And then you come under the IRS and all those things." http://forums.ourchurch.com/viewtopic.php?p=8804&sid=8dcb1ebf2c9add81a2dc39c8f c2f556b

[David Merrill]

Originally Posted by FreeFromContract

Ownmaster - moved from this thread here...

http://www.suijuris.net/forum/123866-post30.html

Since you claim to have knowledge of the differences in both processes, would you mind sharing the specifics of the deficiencies in David's?

There is crosstalk going here. I think what is needed is an attached copy of the Christian Jural Society Abatement Process. I thought I had it here on disk...

The link has John Quade talking about it but I did not see a link. Somebody attach or link that and then I can isolate that the entire thing is a R4C. I have done that before and can show the readers.


Regards,

David Merrill.

P.S. Presuming OwnMaster not a visiting Quatloser;

Here is a specific example of a successful abatement. The magistrate, pretending to be a federal judge had to enter the motion to vacate hearings for the prosecution. Morelike withdraw the motion for the litigant.

...Notice of withdrawal of the Motion for default judgment...

The cause was dead in its tracks. The process arrived at the home in both true name and legal name.