05-12-2008, 05:42 PM
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I am not clear why you,, in Colorado, can speculate that Mahoney had been a lawyer, but I can't refer to Minnesota official records to say he wasn't.
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05-12-2008, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Shoonra
I am not clear why you,, in Colorado, can speculate that Mahoney had been a lawyer, but I can't refer to Minnesota official records to say he wasn't.
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You are saying the Credit River Township required a justice of the peace to be an attorney? |
05-12-2008, 07:50 PM
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Not at all. Anywhere it might happen, a lawyer would probably NOT accept the post of JP because it would seriously impair his legal career.
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05-12-2008, 08:24 PM
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I was not clear when using the 'you' and 'we' statements in the analogy about the private golf club. What my point was and still is that I and many others have gone into this private club, and this has been what has happened with my experiences.
The civil rules of procedure were not used by them in purported civil cases, the rules of evidince were not followed, and in a purported criminal case the rules of criminal procedure were not followed. These experiences are what provoked the analogy.
From the research I have on Dunn and Bradstreet, these 'courts' are all private companies, hence the private golf club analogy.
This was more of a tongue and cheek type analogy.
Anyway, if you disagree with the analogy, maybe I will have a more agreeable one for you in the future. |
05-12-2008, 08:25 PM
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Wonderfully put Shoonra.
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05-12-2008, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by moishanb
I was not clear when using the 'you' and 'we' statements in the analogy about the private golf club.
What my point was and still is that I and many others have gone into this private club, and this has been what has happened with my experiences.
The civil rules of procedure were not used by them in purported civil cases, the rules of evidince were not followed, and in a purported criminal case the rules of criminal procedure were not followed.
These experiences are what provoked the analogy.
From the research I have on Dunn and Bradstreet, these 'courts' are all private companies, hence the private golf club analogy.
This was more of a tongue and cheek type analogy.
Anyway, if you disagree with the analogy, maybe I will have a more agreeable one for you in the future.
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Yes I understand.
Your analogy seemed to suggest that one went into their little private brothel/casino willingly, regardless of whether they knew it was a private for-profit business enterprise, and that what they got was what they deserved for going there.
It is more than a just a brothel/casino when it is becomes a slave market, and when one has been captured and put on the auction block, one has no choice of being there or not.
Your posts are pretty agreeable.
Yeah the Dun and Bradstreet stuff makes you think doesn't it?
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05-13-2008, 06:40 AM
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Yes I understand.
Your analogy seemed to suggest that one went into their little private brothel/casino willingly, regardless of whether they knew it was a private for-profit business enterprise, and that what they got was what they deserved for going there.
It is more than a just a brothel/casino when it is becomes a slave market, and when one has been captured and put on the auction block, one has no choice of being there or not.
Your posts are pretty agreeable.
Yeah the Dun and Bradstreet stuff makes you think doesn't it?
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I believe, that our adversaries, through their own kool-aid training, would and do think that we should know, as 'ignorance of the law is no excuse'. The law if from the creator, and if one is living in a fictional, limited liability, type capacity, then the creator of that fiction will always be more powerful than it's created.
Maybe you or another member can help me with the exact location/quote of this principal:
Anything that goes against the original de jure constitution, is unlawful, and therefore, can be ignored with impunity. If you or anyone can help locate this, I surmise that we should all know this(even if a barrell of a gun is pointed at our temples)......in our adversaries eyes.
And yes, a slave owner would like to think that his slaves are volunteering for the work and contributions he/she makes to the owner. You know, the owner is giving all these benefits such as food, shelter, DISCIPLINE, education. But, this is another topic all in itself.
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05-13-2008, 04:00 PM
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I believe, that our adversaries, through their own kool-aid training, would and do think that we should know, as 'ignorance of the law is no excuse'.
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Originally Posted by moishanb
The law if from the creator, and if one is living in a fictional, limited liability, type capacity, then the creator of that fiction will always be more powerful than it's created.
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We the people, created the Constitution, and are its master. However, we seem to have forgotten this fact, although it is in plain sight.
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Maybe you or another member can help me with the exact location/quote of this principal:
Anything that goes against the original de jure constitution, is unlawful, and therefore, can be ignored with impunity.
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”All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void.” Marbury v. Madison, 5 US (2 Cranch) 137, 174, 176, (1803).
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Originally Posted by moishanb
If you or anyone can help locate this, I surmise that we should all know this(even if a barrell of a gun is pointed at our temples)......in our adversaries eyes.
And yes, a slave owner would like to think that his slaves are volunteering for the work and contributions he/she makes to the owner. You know, the owner is giving all these benefits such as food, shelter, DISCIPLINE, education. But, this is another topic all in itself.
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”Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule making or legislation which would abrogate them.” Miranda v. Arizona, 384 US 436, p. 491 (1966).
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Nature’s God [only Nature for some] created man…
Man created the Constitution…
The Constitution created government…
Government created corporations…
Etcetera
The Grand and Petty Jury are the law of the land when it comes to judging the people. Please see Court Corruption for more information.
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