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Old 07-02-2004, 06:38 PM
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Hey all...

I've been doing research for a court case I have next week. While I don't have time for one of my long winded answers / conclusions, I felt I should post some of what I have found.

In Volume 20: Corpus Juris Sec. 1785 we find "The United States government is a foreign corporation with respect to a State" (see: NY re: Merriam 36 N.E. 505 1441 S. Ct. 1973, 14 L. Ed. 297).

Foreign Agents Registration Act of 1938 (FARA)

22 U.S.C. ยงยง 611-621


Foreign Agents Registration Act of 1938, as amended, pursuant to Section 11 of the Act (22 U.S.C. 621)

as agents of a foriegn principle as defined in Title 22 USC sec 611 they must register as foriegn agents or be in felony violation of the Foriegn Agents Registration Act.

Excerpts from 22 U.S. C. 611(b)(d)

(d) hereof, the term “agent of a foreign principal’ means-
(1)any person who acts as an agent, representative, employee, or servant, or any person who acts in any other capacity at the order, request, or under the direction or control, of a foreign principal or of a person any of whose activities are directly or indirectly supervised, directed, controlled, financed, orsubsidized in whole or in major part by a foreign principal, and who directly or through any other person-
(i) engages within the United States in political activities for or in the interests of such foreign principal;

(ii) acts within the United States as a public relations counsel, publicity agent, information-service employee or political consultant for or in the interests of such foreign principal;

(iii) within the United States solicits, collects, disburses, ordispenses contributions, loans, money, or other things of value for or in the interest of such foreign principal; or

(iv) within the United States represents the interests of such foreign principal before any agency or officials of the Government of theUnited States
RABINOWITZ v. KENNEDY, 376 U.S. 605

1. An attorney who performs legal services, including the handling of litigation, for a foreign government must register under the Foreign Agents Registration Act of 1938, as amended.. The work of a lawyer in litigating for a foreign government cannot, within the meaning of the exemption section of the Act, be characterized as only "financial or mercantile" activity, for those terms are used in the Act to describe conduct of an ordinary private commercial character. Furthermore, since the interest of a foreign government in litigation, even if relating to financial or mercantile matters, cannot be deemed only "private and nonpolitical," an attorney engaged in such litigation cannot under any construction of the Act qualify within the exemption section. Pp. 609-610.

We conclude, therefore, that petitioners, attorneys representing a foreign government in legal matters including litigation, are not exempt from registering under the Foreign Agents Registration Act.

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Under H.R. 452, any person who engages in political activities for the purpose of furthering the commercial or financial operations of a foreign interest would no longer be exempt. In addition, representatives of foreign interests will now be required to notify the Attorney General. Moreover, any person relying on an exemption under the act must notify the Justice Department of his or her intention.

Under H.R. 452, any person who has failed to file, has omitted facts, or has made a false statement regarding the facts, will be fined a minimum of $2,000, up to $1,000,000.

H.R. 452 also establishes a test to determine what constitutes foreign control. Entities that are more than 50 percent foreign-owned would be presumed to be foreign- controlled and required to register.

H.R. 452 also includes language to strike an exemption under FARA which allows the President to exempt foreign governments "vital to the U.S. defense." It is my understanding that the Justice Department has not used this exemption in years.

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The IRS is also an agency/member of a 169 nation pact called the International Criminal Police Organization, or INTERPOL, found at 22 USCA 263a. The memorandum of Understanding, (MOU), between the Secretary of Treasury, AKA the corporate governor of "The Fund" and "The Bank" (International Monetary Fund, and the International Bank for reconstruction and Development), indicated that the Attorney General and her associates are soliciting and collecting information for foreign principals; the international organizations, corporations, and associations, exemplified by 22 USCA 286f.

According to the 1994 US Government Manual, at page 390, the Attorney General is the permanent representative to INTERPOL, and the Secretary of Treasury is the alternate member. Under Article 30 of the INTERPOL constitution, these individuals must expatriate their citizenship. They serve no allegiance to the United States of America. The IRS is paid by "The Fund" and "The Bank."[/u]

Representation

Since you are a special Government employee, you generally may not act as an agent for anyone before a Federal agency or court, or accept any compensation for a representation made by anybody before a Federal agency or court
, if:

(1) the representation concerns a particular matter involving a specific party in which the United States is a party or has a direct and substantial interest, and

(2) either
(a) you have worked personally and substantially on the particular matter for the Government, or

(b) the matter is pending before the Department, and you have performed duties for the Department of Defense for more than 60 of the preceding 365 days. You generally may not serve in the U.S. Government if you are acting as an agent of a foreign principal and thereby have to register under the Foreign Agents Registration Act of 1938
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Soooo.... since:

the Attorney General is the permanent representative to INTERPOL, and the Secretary of Treasury is the alternate member, and under Article 30 of the INTERPOL constitution, ... must expatriate their citizenship

and because....

22 U.S. C. 611(b)(d)(1) says.....

any person who acts in any other capacity at the order, request, or under the direction or control, of a foreign principal or of a person any of whose activities are directly or indirectly supervised, directed, controlled, financed, or subsidized in whole or in major part by a foreign principal.

So, anyone who, directly or indirectly, works for the Attorney General (read: ALL LAWYERS !!) or the Sec. of Treasury, are automatically FOREIGN AGENTS.

The US Supreme Court said it best....

We conclude, therefore, that petitioners, attorneys representing a foreign government in legal matters including litigation, are not exempt from registering under the Foreign Agents Registration Act.

hmm... Judges are attorneys aren't they? lol

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Old 07-02-2004, 09:35 PM
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We conclude, therefore, that petitioners, attorneys representing a foreign government in legal matters including litigation, are not exempt from registering under the Foreign Agents Registration Act.



hmm... Judges are attorneys aren't they? lol






Yes, they are attorneys. But, are they "representing a foreign government in legal matters" while acting as judge? If so, and you can prove it, I think you could have a lot more going for you than the foriegn agent registration issue...



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From what I understand of the judiciary act of 1789 there are no Judges in america only magistrates who take their orders from the crown enforcing laws of the sea, and if you look in the frcp you will see that the offenses commited will be on the high seas. I pray to God every day for him to come and take care of these cowards who dress up like woman an enforce their will upon the people of this country and steal their substance.
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Old 07-03-2004, 02:43 PM
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SJ..

Thanks for responding....

It's quite the convoluted mess, aint it?

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Yes, they are attorneys. But, are they "representing a foreign government in legal matters" while acting as judge?
The quoted USSC case RABINOWITZ v. KENNEDY, 376 U.S. 605 was about representing Cuba during the cold war, and therefore the specific reference to foreign governments. But the code is very specific.

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22 U.S. C. 611(b)(d)(1) any person who acts as an agent, representative, employee, or servant, or any person who acts in any other capacity at the order, request, or under the direction or control, of a foreign principal or of a person any of whose activities are directly or indirectly supervised, directed, controlled, financed, orsubsidized in whole or in major part by a foreign principal, and who directly or through any other person-
(i) engages within the United States in political activities for or in the interests of such foreign principal;

(ii) acts within the United States as a public relations counsel, publicity agent, information-service employee or political consultant for or in the interests of such foreign principal;

(iii) within the United States solicits, collects, disburses, ordispenses contributions, loans, money, or other things of value for or in the interest of such foreign principal; or

(iv) within the United States represents the interests of such foreign principal before any agency or officials of the Government of theUnited States
Simply stated, is the Judge "representing a foreign government in legal matters"?? Not as an attorney... no.. He is representing the Judicial branch of U.S. corp., (at least, until, the Fed comes out of the closet, and admits they're ALL agents servicing the bankruptsy, or we can prove it is so, per your comment).

What we CAN show is that the judge is working for members of the judicial branch who are, per the code, foreign agents... therefore, per the code, the judge is one also.

To be honest, I am unsure of the relative positioning of the "top dogs" in the judicial branch, and need to undertand exactly how the power flows in order to make this arguement stick... However, I am certain of this much....

The cops today are all automatrons. They aren't allowed the discretion to do what they thought was appropriate, like they were able to, say... 40 years ago.

Today, if there is ANY grey area in a cops situation, they immediately get on the phone to the DA ( read: prosecuting ATTORNEY for that federal district), so they can get legal advise from their Master's agent on how they should handle the situation. If the case involves a murder, for instance, then the STATE Attorney General takes over (being the local DA's BOSS).

Further still, if the murder(s) involve multiple states, then the case gets turned over to the Attorney General of the United States (the State AG's BOSS), does it not? and isn't HE a foreign principal per the code?

Doesn't this mean, the USAG, the State AG, the local DA, and ALL police officers are foreign agents?

Another angle.....

This is all about a "foreign principal" (government or corporation) outside the UNITED STATES INC.

As you know, all the states were conquered and forced to rewrite their constitutions, by the federal government, in the 1860's and early 70's, but they didn't have to tell anyone they were conquered ( more non-dosclosure / collusion) per Article I of the Leiber Code (General Order 100). Therefore, the states themselves, are no longer separate entities, are they?

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Lieber Code, Article I, "a place, district or country occupied by a country stands, in consequence of the occupation, under the martial law of the invading or occupying army, whether any proclamation declaring martial law, or any public warning to the inhabitants, has been issued or not. Martial law is the immediate and direct effect and consequence of occupation or conquest."
What this does mean, is that, as a sovereign, in their state or federal court, I am a foreign government, so they would need a foreign agent registration form to represent ME !


So.. what do you think?

Brainstorm with me plz... SJ, et al...

kgod, you were going to research this... what conclusions did you come too?

We must critically scrutinize each others perspective That is what makes a Master Mind Group (created by this forum, and like ALL corporations have) so powerful ! If we aren't comfortable with defending our perspective, the DA will cut us to ribbons in court ! It's called constructive criticism !! lol

So.. Fire away !!! lol

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Akira,



For this situation I believe we must defer back to the Constitution as the source document from which all things flow. How can we tie this back to the living document?



Hhhmmm.....

I'll take a gander.
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Old 07-04-2004, 09:27 AM
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I think it was the James Hardin video that is located over on this site:



http://www.kel.cc/downloads/TaxStuff/



Where he was involved in a court case against the IRS and demanded the Foreign Agent Registrations of all agents involved. They were stalling, as they probably didn't have them and there was mandatory jail time involved if a foreign agent is working withing the states without a foreign agent registration.



On another thread, we were briefly discussing this and someone asked what we do about other agencies that this might not exactly work with. Someone suggested asking for their oaths of office.



As for the court being a foreign jurisdiction, we mentioned in yet another thread about how some are using the tactic that when their name is called, they don't do anything besides walk to the judge, point at him and say that they don't recognize him, then do the same with the bailiff, other attorneys, court recorder, etc, and walk out. Look up the work "recognition" or "recognize" in a law dictionary for more info.



Just a thought.
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Akira,



I have combed through the Constitution and Article III. I really didn't find anything that popped out to me in reference to this thread but I did take special notice to this and thought it could very well apply:



ARTICLE IV



Section 4. <u>The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion</u>; and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence.



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Up to my eyebrows in work that MUST be completed.



If there were more hours to a day or I could go without sleep, food or other necessities... I could probably swing some time to accomplish some of these other tasks.



It's a shame I'm not some super wealthy banker type that could just employ others to perform and take some of the work load off my back !
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"Banker Type" to be exact...



(Think of all those associated with bankers... attorneys, judges, politicians, sheriffs... and on and on.)
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"Traitors" is really more like it.



Ever read the penalty for Treason?



Maybe that is why the "right to bear arms" was protected.



How dare they do such an injustice to this great land... to this great people... how dare they turn their back on liberty and freedom <u>for all</u>... may the traitorous scum burn in hell.

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