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Old 04-12-2008, 01:49 PM
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Pathology of Trolls

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"The judiciary of the United States is the subtle corps of sappers and miners constantly working under ground to undermine the foundation of our confederated fabric.

They are construing our constitution from a coordination of a general and special government to a general and supreme one alone.

This will lay all things at their feet...

We shall see if they are bold enough to take the daring stride their five lawyers have lately taken.

...they consider themselves secure for life; they sculk from responsibility to public opinion ...

An opinion is huddled up in conclave, perhaps by a majority of one, delivered as if unanimous, and with the silent acquiescence of lazy or timid associates, by a crafty chief judge, who sophisticates the law to his mind, by the turn of his own reasoning...

Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Thomas Ritchie, December 25, 1820
(Thank you very much for this quote BOBT12)


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Bottom line...I'm not one of the folks on here who espouses bizarre theories...

My intellectual development is just fine.
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Here, I'll lay it out for you.

You need to be educated.
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Common law is, properly understood, judge made law.

Precedent established through judicial opinions.

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I don't give...opinions here.

I quote the actual law...

Unlike some people here, I don't expect people to just take me at my word.

Uh huh. Whatever you say.
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Next silly theory?
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belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof
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belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.

a personal view, attitude, or appraisal
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belief stronger than impression and less strong than positive knowledge
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Looks pretty comprehensive to me.
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I'm doing you a service.

Educating you.


So, "properly understood," per "Lawdog's" "educational" "service," it is "common"

("in" or "at?")

"law" that:

1. a "judge"

(flesh and blood man/woman, now generally recognized as, and usually required to be, a member of a for-profit professional at-law practicing attorney's monopoly closed-shop fraternal trade guild BAR ASSOCIATION assuming and/or granted and holding TITLES of "ESQUIRE" and "HONOR")

2. assumes

(backed by large bodies of heavily armed corporate municipal troops),

3. or otherwise somehow "HAS" Constitutional "legislative Powers"

("To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof"),

4. and with, by, and through "personal" "BELIEF"

("opinion," see above),

not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof, or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty,

5. "makes"

(legislates from the bench?)

6. "judge made" "law?"

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...your issues are not really legal, they are political.



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I don't give...opinions here.
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Beliefs, remember, are not the same as facts.


I am aware that...belief is not proof.

That you are not calls into question the extent of your intellectual development.
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Repeat after me...BELIEFS ARE NOT FACTS OR KNOWLEDGE!!!!

Believe...whatever you want.

Just grow up and accept that beliefs and facts are NOT the same things.
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Everyone whose opinion matters...like the Supreme Court...

What YOU believe is immaterial.

Beliefs are neither facts nor knowledge.

Never forget that.
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LOL...only in your mind is that "proof" of any of those things.

When someone whose opinion matters agrees with you, be sure to let me know.


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belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
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view, judgment, or appraisal formed in the mind...
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04-10-2008, 06:32 PM
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court opinion
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Kee-rist, I get tired of repeating myself.

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I don't give...opinions here.

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Here's a Supreme Court Opinion.

Read carefully.
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I don't give...opinions here.

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belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.

a personal view, attitude, or appraisal
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belief stronger than impression and less strong than positive knowledge
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You can believe any damn thing you want.

However, beliefs are not facts.

You could be wrong or mistaken in your beliefs.

So if you act on your beliefs, you best be ready to take the consequences.

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Kee-rist, I get tired of repeating myself.
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I don't give...opinions here.
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...an angry crank...
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Next silly argument?
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04-10-2008, 09:41 AM
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pointless waste of time

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Here, I'll lay it out for you.

You need to be educated.
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Bottom line...I'm not one of the folks on here who espouses bizarre theories...
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It's much easier to ignore someone than to refute them.

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...one difference between adults and childish people.

Adults accept that not everything in life is the way they want it to be.

I don't give...opinions here.

I quote the actual law...

Unlike some people here, I don't expect people to just take me at my word.

Uh huh. Whatever you say.
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THINK for a minute.

Try to, at least.

Part of your problem is that you never stop to think where your theories might lead, and how absurd the results would be.
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Common law is, properly understood, judge made law.

Precedent established through judicial opinions.

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I don't give...opinions here.

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belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof
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belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.

a personal view, attitude, or appraisal
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belief stronger than impression and less strong than positive knowledge
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Looks pretty comprehensive to me.
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Next silly theory?
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The opinion of a member of Congress is not the law.
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The Constitution can be amended to say theoretically anything.
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I am much less interested in theory than in practice.
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I don't give...opinions here.
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...law is...established through... opinions.
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I don't give...opinions here.
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Next silly theory?
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Slavery was abolished with the ratification of the 13th Amendment after the Civil War.

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a complete fool
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You're such a fool.
Idiot.
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...you idiot...
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You should be ashamed of yourself for posting a link to such disgusting hate-mongering garbage.




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Old 04-12-2008, 02:39 PM
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Lots of quotes

Wow... I sure am seeing a lot of quotes from the group of members that are on my ignore list. I don't let them waste my time.. why should you guys?

Remember time is the only commodity that can never be replaced. Do with it what you choose.. But, why give the time of day to sheeple who are bent on stealing your time and energy? I don't know if they do it because they feel obligated to "restore order" to the world they believe in or they are being compensated in some other way.

When the naysayers resort to name calling and condescending remarks they have nothing valuable to offer. Should they be banned for such childish behavior? I believe so. So why is so much TIME and ENERGY spent responding to their trivil in the meantime?

Just my opinion. Now back to my programming.

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Old 04-12-2008, 02:55 PM
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This thread is interesting because the above reminds me so much of the Jesuit mentality, ultimately Roman Catholicism is the source of all this false lawyering, it's all opinions and assumptions that we the common folk are trained to adopt through education.

Its all chitter-chatter and hallucinations, or a sort of 'optical illusion'.

Mass delusion and psychosis brought on by abuse suffered in childhood. This they call 'education', it's ritual satanism. Start with a false premise, and lead down a dead-end.

Same method the elites practice on their own kids, to perpetuate the ideology.

Oh I forgot: and "Fee Me!"

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Old 04-12-2008, 03:16 PM
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This thread is interesting because the above reminds me so much of the Jesuit mentality, ultimately Roman Catholicism is the source of all this false lawyering, it's all opinions and assumptions that we the common folk are trained to adopt through education.

Its all chitter-chatter and hallucinations, or a sort of 'optical illusion'.

Mass delusion and psychosis brought on by abuse suffered in childhood. This they call 'education', it's ritual satanism. Start with a false premise, and lead down a dead-end.

Same method the elites practice on their own kids, to perpetuate the ideology.

Oh I forgot: and "Fee Me!"

Babylon=Babble.on


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The whole system is based upon a 'presumption' that something was represented to have occurred which may or may not have occurred in the manner which has been represented.
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Old 04-12-2008, 03:47 PM
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The whole system is based upon a 'presumption' that something was represented to have occurred which may or may not have occurred in the manner which has been represented.

Truth is truth. It has no need to be re-presented as something else.

As a man I have no need to be re-presented or embodied by another.

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represent 1375, "to bring to mind by description," from O.Fr. representer (12c.), from L. repręsentare, from re-, intensive prefix, + pręsentare "to present," lit. "to place before" (see present (2)). Meaning "to symbolize, to be the embodiment of" is from c.1380. Legislative sense is attested from 1655. Representation "image, likeness" is from c.1425; legislative sense first attested 1769.

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embody c.1652, in ref. to a soul or spirit invested with a physical form; of principles, ideas, etc., from 1663; from en- "in" + body
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Old 04-12-2008, 03:56 PM
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Truth is truth. It has no need to be re-presented as something else.

As a man I have no need to be re-presented or embodied by another.

Thus the gist of my quotation. The entire 'secular' system has been 'imaged', by the masses, as something that it really is NOT. I think others have used the expression "The Matrix" to mean the same thing.

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Old 04-12-2008, 04:24 PM
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Thus the gist of my quotation. The entire 'secular' system has been 'imaged', by the masses, as something that it really is NOT. I think others have used the expression "The Matrix" to mean the same thing.

Jerry Carlos

No argument, Jerry. Merely filling in the gaps.

Also, found here
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REPRESENTATION. A statement of a fact, truthful or untruthful.
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Pathological Manifestations?

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Suffice it also to say, it's a case often misconstrued by cranks such as yourself.

"Cranks?"

What is that?

Anything like "idiots?"

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You're such a fool.
Idiot.

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...you idiot...

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1983 idiot.

nope, calling people idiots won't be tolerated

you are suspended, son

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Bottom line...you need to stop believing what you read on websites run by promoters of pseudo-legalistic mythology and read the actual law.



Hey Jason, "promoters of pseudo-legalistic mythology" would be you wouldn't it?

Is that who you are representing on Lawdog?

Maybe Weisshaupt?

Is he one of THEM "promoters" too Lawdog?

Hey Weisshaupt, are you doing any promoting of "websites run by promoters of pseudo-legalistic mythology?"

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Hey lawdog, click on one of those signature lines and get back to me, ok bro?

Let me know if that's one of those "websites run by promoters of pseudo-legalistic mythology.


Lawdog, you saying the promoters and users of this website haven't/don't "read" any "actual law?"

Jason, you've never read any "actual law?"

Akira...never?

Weisshaupt?

Anybody?

Everybody?

mrg?
my few little "law" works have at least 20,000 views.

That's a lot of "idiots," right, son?

And, there are plenty of "idiots" like Akira, Weisshaupt, Extramural, Rottweiler, Palani, BOBT12, gldskr, Jerry Pitts, ThomPaine, masterduke, FreeFromContract, and the good man you and your buddy boys SUSSMAN, and KAPUST absolutely HATE, as well as too many others to name, some of whom just read here, that know way more "actual law" than YOU and I put together.

They are "idiots" lawdog?

Is that the talk you're talking, lil' bubba?

These are idiots here lawdog?

That's the talk you got, my boy?

What's the LAWDOG got under him (other than unclean hands from already been banned)?

This?
And this?

BMOC, really something to write home about, UGA boy.

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It won't make you a lawyer, but it will at least make you less susceptible to being conned into accepting one of their bogus theories.
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Hey Jason, are you "conning" us with "bogus theories?"


Weiss??

You "conning" us with "bogus theories?"

Akira?

Is that at all who and what you are talking about Lawdog?

Are they "promoters" of the "kool aid" you and the Three Tenors keep singing about?"




Hey Lawdog, what are the NAMES of these "promoters of pseudo-legalistic mythology"?



So you are saying that suijuris.net is "one of those websites run by promoters of pseudo-legalistic mythology?"



So are you?

Hey man, name some names.

Hey Lawdog, how about that Red Amendment?

That's reading some "actual law" isn't it?

I've read it, and, privately (with gratitude for the sharing of it too), more, from where that came from, and it sure does "read" way more "actual law" than the "kool aid" you just keep "talking."



The only major website "run by promoters of pseudo-legalistic mythology" I know of is:



and I at least have the cajonas to name names, (or at least to repeat them).
http://www.suijuris.net/forum/134610-post43.html


Hey man what's your name?

Can you give me your name man?


"websites run by promoters of pseudo-legalistic mythology"


Hey folks, I thinks that be's us.


Hey bro, name the "websites" and "promoters" you're throwin' down on, dissin' and representin' on.

C'mon mayn!


Hey Lawdog how about your very own definition of "actual law" from your own head?

You know, an original thought?

Something not indoctrinated into one end of you and parroted out the other maybe?

Got an original thought on "actual law?"

Hey, how about that Law of Nations?

Is that "actual law?"

Yeah man, we are a real bunch of "uneducated" "cranks," "knuckleheads," "fools" and "idiots," right, my boy?

Don't you, yourself, with your fine college edumacation--your Law Debris--say so?

Funny how you compare "attorning" to "doctoring."

Your "doctors" want to butcher rather than prevent or heal.

Hey man what's the difference between "law enforcement" and "crime prevention" and which one best suits your "professional" "practice's" profit margin?

Which one is better for society?

But "crime prevention" has never "worked" has it?

How long has your "profession" been "practicing?"

About as long as "crime prevention" hasn't been "working" maybe?

No corrollary there is there?

Of course not.

Sort of like the poison, burn, and butcher school of "medicine" ya think, kiddo?

Prevention and healing don't put the ribs on the table like some nice bonecutting, right, son?

Hey man, I will hang with this little community of legal scholars, and leave the poison, burn, and butcher schools of "medicine," "banking," and "law enforcement" to you JD's, MD's, "Esquires," "Honorables," and your corps of corporate municipal mercenary troops.


Hack away, bro.

We here have some crime prevention to look after.

No thanks to you.

PMO CMA Big Time, Bro!
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Old 04-16-2008, 06:57 AM
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And another quote from LAWDOG-

paraphrasing slightly...."it does not matter what you think, it only matters what the Bar Association and Judicial Society think"
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