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Originally Posted by rottweiler
I object, the people of your county can declare a court of record. They also have the right not to declare one.
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I agree with you. I do recall reading something about having a trial by jury(not to be confused with jury trial), with 12 good men. Hmmmmmmmmmm, wonder where I read that?
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04-23-2008, 06:54 AM
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Okay...
I showed you the Bill of Rights Rottweiler. Article IV only goes up to §21 so neither of your citations work.
If your objections are to make sense then you are saying the right to assize is ancient - I agree fully. That is why I included the Instruction to Remove for Bruce Clyde. I suppose the problem might be more that one gets bored looking at a sovereign application to proceed In Forma Pauperis and will not read to the last page.
Try that Rottweiler - read it to the last page.
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04-23-2008, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by David Merrill
There are no courts of record in Colorado unless you know what you are doing.
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I just started re-reading this thread and saw this. I see what you are trying to say now.
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[Pollard v. Hagan, 44 U.S. 212 (1845)]
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04-23-2008, 08:28 AM
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I made a mistake. I meant Article VI Judiciary, sections 23 and 27 of the original 1876 Colorado Constitution. I misunderstood you, nevermind.
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Originally Posted by David Merrill
Okay...
I showed you the Bill of Rights Rottweiler. Article IV only goes up to §21 so neither of your citations work.
If your objections are to make sense then you are saying the right to assize is ancient - I agree fully. That is why I included the Instruction to Remove for Bruce Clyde. I suppose the problem might be more that one gets bored looking at a sovereign application to proceed In Forma Pauperis and will not read to the last page.
Try that Rottweiler - read it to the last page.
Regards,
David Merrill.
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United States never held any municipal sovereignty, jurisdiction, or right of soil in Alabama or any of the new states which were formed ... The United States has no Constitutional capacity to exercise municipal jurisdiction, sovereignty or eminent domain, within the limits of a state or elsewhere, except in the cases in which it is expressly granted ...
[Pollard v. Hagan, 44 U.S. 212 (1845)]
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04-23-2008, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by rottweiler
I object, any of the people of your county can declare a court of record. They also have the right not to declare one.
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Ah, the old "You can set up your own court if you want to. And it's really legit, we swear!"
Always good for a chuckle and a shake of the head.
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04-23-2008, 10:59 AM
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I never said that liardog.
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Ah, the old "You can set up your own court if you want to. And it's really legit, we swear!"
Always good for a chuckle and a shake of the head.
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[Pollard v. Hagan, 44 U.S. 212 (1845)]
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04-23-2008, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by rottweiler
I made a mistake. I meant Article VI Judiciary, sections 23 and 27 of the original 1876 Colorado Constitution. I misunderstood you, nevermind.
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I missed attaching that page. Sorry. It was important to my point too. County courts were courts of record but if you look post-1933 you find they are not anymore.
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04-23-2008, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by rottweiler
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I object, any of the people of your county can declare a court of record. They also have the right not to declare one.
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Ah, the old "You can set up your own court if you want to. And it's really legit, we swear!"
Always good for a chuckle and a shake of the head.
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Originally Posted by rottweiler
I never said that liardog.
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Depending on what you mean by "declare", it certainly sounds like you are saying is "you can set up your own court if you want.
But who really cares what you meant, your ideas are almost as nutty as DiMs.
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We reject Skurdal's argument that he is a "free man" exempt from the laws because he has "no contracts" with either the state or federal governments...No persons in Montana may exempt themselves from any law simply by declaring they do not consent to it applying to them...Accepting Skurdal's assertion of exempt status is an invitation to anarchy. We decline that invitation. - State v. Skurdal, Supreme Court of Montana, 235 Mont. 291, 767 P.2d 304 at 308 (1988).
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04-24-2008, 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Lawdog
But who really cares what you meant, your ideas are almost as nutty as DiMs.
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