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Old 04-23-2008, 06:34 AM
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I object, the people of your county can declare a court of record. They also have the right not to declare one.

I agree with you. I do recall reading something about having a trial by jury(not to be confused with jury trial), with 12 good men. Hmmmmmmmmmm, wonder where I read that?
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Old 04-23-2008, 06:54 AM
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Okay...

I showed you the Bill of Rights Rottweiler. Article IV only goes up to §21 so neither of your citations work.

If your objections are to make sense then you are saying the right to assize is ancient - I agree fully. That is why I included the Instruction to Remove for Bruce Clyde. I suppose the problem might be more that one gets bored looking at a sovereign application to proceed In Forma Pauperis and will not read to the last page.

Try that Rottweiler - read it to the last page.



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It is worth noting that the fealty to the Pope, which you cited for its explicit mention of the Templar abbey in Dover, is the legal basis for the invalidation of the Magna Carta after it was sealed at Runnymede.
During discussion about the Treaty of 1213 and the Magna Charta (1215).

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/medieval/magframe.htm
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Old 04-23-2008, 08:25 AM
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There are no courts of record in Colorado unless you know what you are doing.

I just started re-reading this thread and saw this. I see what you are trying to say now.
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Old 04-23-2008, 08:28 AM
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I made a mistake. I meant Article VI Judiciary, sections 23 and 27 of the original 1876 Colorado Constitution. I misunderstood you, nevermind.

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Okay...

I showed you the Bill of Rights Rottweiler. Article IV only goes up to §21 so neither of your citations work.

If your objections are to make sense then you are saying the right to assize is ancient - I agree fully. That is why I included the Instruction to Remove for Bruce Clyde. I suppose the problem might be more that one gets bored looking at a sovereign application to proceed In Forma Pauperis and will not read to the last page.

Try that Rottweiler - read it to the last page.



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Old 04-23-2008, 09:17 AM
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I object, any of the people of your county can declare a court of record. They also have the right not to declare one.

Ah, the old "You can set up your own court if you want to. And it's really legit, we swear!"

Always good for a chuckle and a shake of the head.
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Old 04-23-2008, 10:59 AM
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I never said that liardog.

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Ah, the old "You can set up your own court if you want to. And it's really legit, we swear!"

Always good for a chuckle and a shake of the head.
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Old 04-23-2008, 12:02 PM
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I made a mistake. I meant Article VI Judiciary, sections 23 and 27 of the original 1876 Colorado Constitution. I misunderstood you, nevermind.

I missed attaching that page. Sorry. It was important to my point too. County courts were courts of record but if you look post-1933 you find they are not anymore.



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It is worth noting that the fealty to the Pope, which you cited for its explicit mention of the Templar abbey in Dover, is the legal basis for the invalidation of the Magna Carta after it was sealed at Runnymede.
During discussion about the Treaty of 1213 and the Magna Charta (1215).

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/medieval/magframe.htm
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/john1a.html
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Old 04-23-2008, 01:27 PM
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I object, any of the people of your county can declare a court of record. They also have the right not to declare one.

Ah, the old "You can set up your own court if you want to. And it's really legit, we swear!"

Always good for a chuckle and a shake of the head.


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I never said that liardog.

Depending on what you mean by "declare", it certainly sounds like you are saying is "you can set up your own court if you want.

But who really cares what you meant, your ideas are almost as nutty as DiMs.
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But who really cares what you meant, your ideas are almost as nutty as DiMs.

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