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Old 04-29-2008, 07:12 PM
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13 Famous American Lawyers

ALL BUT ONE NEVER WENT TO LAW SCHOOL
http://www.1215.org/lawnotes/lawnotes/lawyers.htm
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United States never held any municipal sovereignty, jurisdiction, or right of soil in Alabama or any of the new states which were formed ... The United States has no Constitutional capacity to exercise municipal jurisdiction, sovereignty or eminent domain, within the limits of a state or elsewhere, except in the cases in which it is expressly granted ...
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I was thinking of Lawdork and his high falutin degree in bastardry when I read it.


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I was thinking of Lawdork and his high falutin degree in bastardry when I read it.

What "degree?"
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Old 04-30-2008, 07:17 AM
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What "degree?"

I see. Well then, I was thinking of Lawdork and his high falutin alleged degree in law school bastardry when I read it.

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Thanks for the term "bastardry". I believe it describes that infamous profession perfectly.
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That describes a lot of preachers and politicians as well!
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Don't forget bankers =D!!

Sidenote 1: Attornies and bankers both take the term 'Esquire'.

Sidenote 2: Bachelors (degree) also means an inferior knight or ESQUIRE.
Source: Black's Law Dictionary 4th Ed.

Sidenote 3: Jesus didn't like attornies, bankers, and preachers either =D.

That's the end of my 'Did you know' for now.....

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Sidenote 2: Bachelors (degree) also means an inferior knight or ESQUIRE.
Source: Black's Law Dictionary 4th Ed.
Nice catch!

Attaching a scan of that entry from Black's Law, 2nd edition.

Any idea what "masters" or "doctor" might translate to? (i.e., as you work your way up the Masonically-graded and -degreed indoctrination system that we call "education"?)

Also, did you ever notice that the word "school" is mentioned only once in Scripture (Acts 19:9), and there in the context of a man named "Tyrannus" (not the friendlist-sounding guy)..
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Nice catch!

Attaching a scan of that entry from Black's Law, 2nd edition.

Any idea what "masters" or "doctor" might translate to? (i.e., as you work your way up the Masonically-graded and -degreed indoctrination system that we call "education"?)

Also, did you ever notice that the word "school" is mentioned only once in Scripture (Acts 19:9), and there in the context of a man named "Tyrannus" (not the friendlist-sounding guy)..

VERY interesting questions, psholtz. I am almost serious about feverishly tracking down historical (and legal) information concerning colleges, the various degrees, etc.

I found the information on our educational system having heavy indoctrination from wikipedia through the article on the word 'elite'.

The word 'master' may come from the word 'magister'. Just off the cuff, master and magister sound similar to the word 'magi' which may all have the same roots (consider this entire paragraph a hypothesis pending future validation).

I had been thinking about that for some time. The more yarn you pull, the more yarn you get with many interesting segements of the pulled yarn.

Perhaps an etymological search of the words would be a fantastic start?

Will be back later with whatever rough digging I turn up...

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Old 05-01-2008, 10:34 AM
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master (n.)O.E. męgester "one having control or authority," from L. magister "chief, head, director, teacher" (cf. O.Fr. maistre, Fr. maītre, It. maestro, Ger. Meister), infl. in M.E. by O.Fr. maistre, from L. magister, contrastive adj. from magis (adv.) "more," itself a comp. of magnus "great." Meaning "original of a recording" is from 1904. In academic senses (from M.L. magister) it is attested from 1380s, originally a degree conveying authority to teach in the universities. The verb is attested from c.1225.

doctor c.1303, "Church father," from O.Fr. doctour, from M.L. doctor "religious teacher, adviser, scholar," from L. doctor "teacher," from doct- stem of docere "to show, teach," originally "make to appear right," causative of decere "be seemly, fitting" (see decent). Familiar form doc first recorded c.1850. Meaning of "holder of highest degree in university" is first found c.1375; that of "medical professional" dates from 1377, though this was not common till late 16c. Verb sense of "alter, disguise, falsify" is first recorded 1774.

Source: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php

From wikipedia for deed

A deed is a legal instrument used to grant a right. Deeds are part of the broader category of documents under seal. Deeds can be described as contract-like, as they require the mutual agreement of more than one person. Deeds can therefore be distinguished from covenants, which being also under seal, are unilateral promises. The deed is best known as the method of transferring title to real estate from one person to another, often using a description of its "metes and bounds." However, by the general definition, powers of attorney, commissions, patents, and even diplomas conferring academic degrees are also deeds.

Wow.... I love research yarn. Doctor is "Church father" or religious teacher, advisor, scholar. Some other interesting words to check out are degree, step, Ph.D. (Philosophię Doctor), and college.

Still digging...

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