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Old 03-03-2007, 08:25 PM
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Jean Keating's Prison Treatise

I guess I'm just not smart enough to fully comprehend this, as repeated reading of this material seem to provide me with enlightenment. And this really bothers me, as the answers I have been seeking in protracted legal research might be revealed here.

So, if anyone here can educate me on this I would be forever in gratitude for the learning.

Dane

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Old 03-07-2007, 12:50 AM
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More on prisons

200 plus pages of background research:

http://dunwalke.com/dillon_read_chronology.pdf

ATranscript of a Keating seminar:

http://www.freedom-school.com/keatin...nscription.pdf

Now consider this math question;

adding all the above, does this;
http://www.wealth4freedom.com/law/prison_treatise.shtml

Plus this:
http://www.halliburton.com/default/m...ws_012406.html

in the final analysis, going to be equal to or greater than:
http://www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/r210_35.pdf ?


Looks like Uncle Sam is looking for a few good men.
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Old 03-07-2007, 07:46 AM
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Good job. Thanks for the link.
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Old 03-07-2007, 11:48 AM
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Well, just so you know, this guy says jail is where you could end up for trying this procedure.

For convenience, here is the law he quotes, but he doesn't supply much explanation.

First you must read and understand Title 18 USC§514.

§ 514 Fictitious obligations

U.S. Code as of: 01/06/03
Section 514. Fictitious obligations

(a) Whoever, with the intent to defraud -
(1) draws, prints, processes, produces, publishes, or otherwise
makes, or attempts or causes the same, within the United States;
(2) passes, utters, presents, offers, brokers, issues, sells,
or attempts or causes the same, or with like intent possesses,
within the United States; or
(3) utilizes interstate or foreign commerce, including the use
of the mails or wire, radio, or other electronic communication,
to transmit, transport, ship, move, transfer, or attempts or
causes the same, to, from, or through the United States,
any false or fictitious instrument, document, or other item
appearing, representing, purporting, or contriving through scheme
or artifice, to be an actual security or other financial instrument
issued under the authority of the United States, a foreign
government, a State or other political subdivision of the United
States, or an organization, shall be guilty of a class B felony.
(b) For purposes of this section, any term used in this section
that is defined in section 513(c) has the same meaning given such
term in section 513(c).
(c) The United States Secret Service, in addition to any other
agency having such authority, shall have authority to investigate
offenses under this section.

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U.S. Code as of: 01/06/03
Section 3559. Sentencing classification of offenses

(a) Classification. - An offense that is not specifically
classified by a letter grade in the section defining it, is
classified if the maximum term of imprisonment authorized is -
(1) life imprisonment, or if the maximum penalty is death, as a
Class A felony;
(2) twenty-five years or more, as a Class B felony;
(3) less than twenty-five years but ten or more years, as a
Class C felony;
(4) less than ten years but five or more years, as a Class D
felony;
(5) less than five years but more than one year, as a Class E
felony;
(6) one year or less but more than six months, as a Class A
misdemeanor;
(7) six months or less but more than thirty days, as a Class B
misdemeanor;
(8) thirty days or less but more than five days, as a Class C
misdemeanor; or
(9) five days or less, or if no imprisonment is authorized, as
an infraction.
(b) Effect of Classification. - Except as provided in subsection
(c), an offense classified under subsection (a) carries all the
incidents assigned to the applicable letter designation, except
that the maximum term of imprisonment is the term authorized by the
law describing the offense.

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Old 11-09-2007, 05:02 PM
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For convenience, here is the law he quotes, but he doesn't supply much explanation.

Unfortunately, that's Jean's M.O., not atg press's
ATG is saying that Jeans IBOE can ESILY be construed as fictitious obligations
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18 USC 514 was enacted fairly recently (in 1996) in an attempt to cover a possible gap in the counterfeiting laws raised by (among others) the Montana Freemen's funny money. These and other pretended financial instruments, mostly called POMCs (Public Office Money Certificates), appeared to be checks or money orders to be paid by either the US Postmaster or the US Treasurer.
As these were not imitations of currency or of anything actually used by the govt (and sometimes indicated that they'd be paid by someone with a title that did not exactly match anyone actually in govt), a question arose of whether this constituted counterfeiting, So section 514 was enacted to settle that question by treating these worthless documents much the same as counterfeiting.

I don't know what Keating's documents looked like, but I can say that some of the pretended financial instruments suggested by people on this website fall into the category covered by the section of the Criminal Code.
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Old 11-09-2007, 08:41 PM
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I don't know what Keating's documents looked like, but I can say that some of the pretended financial instruments suggested by people on this website fall into the category covered by the section of the Criminal Code.

Maybe it might look like this:



or how 'bout this:


or this:
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Here are a few more counterfeit notes:





Come on!!! A United States of Anemia dollar bill for TWE dollars. Who would question the authenticity of that?
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:27 PM
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...some of the pretended financial instruments suggested by people on this website fall into the category covered by the section of the Criminal Code.

Prove it Bernie.

Every and each word, starting with "pretended."

You do, as a LICENSED "at law" private trade guild Tory Loyalist BAR Association Attorney, KNOW how to specifically, and with particularity, prove up claims and allegations don't you?

Or do you need more PRACTICE?

Talk about "pretended" "instruments!?"

What does a BAR ASSOCIATION ATTORNEY LICENSE look like?

Does it look anything like a LIQUOR LICENSE that hangs above the BAR at the neighborhood taproom?

Who issues LICENSE TO PRACTICE LAW?

A public Office of Licensure, or a private trade guild?

Can an ATTORNEY LICENSED TO PRACTICE LAW hang his ATTORNEY'S LICENSE above, say, perhaps, the BAR in his DEN?

Is THE ATTORNEY'S LICENSE suitable for framing?

Is there a LICENSING FEE for THE ATTORNEY'S LICENSE?

If so, is it a one time FEE or recurring TAX (vexation)?

Why would one need a LICENSE TO PRACTICE LAW?

Was Heifetz required LICENSE TO PRACTICE VIOLIN before he was able to actually play the thing instead of just fiddling around with it.

Was Gideon required LICENSE TO PRACTICE TRUMPET?

Do BAR ASSOCIATION "ATTORNEYS BERNIES" just PRACTICE, or do you actually PERFORM PROFESSIONALLY, after you are done "fiddling about?"

The BAR ASSOCIATION in its perverse insistence upon "at" "law" "practice" would have people actually believe "that the Bill of Rights guarantees the accused the right to an attorney," yet, strangely enough, (fortunately, I suppose), I find no such crude Creature anywhere mentioned in "that goddam piece of paper."

I surely would greatly prefer "ASSISTANCE OF COUNSEL," like KING GEORGE V's "goddam piece of paper" says I have right to, and DECIDEDLY NOT be forced to settle for a Tory Loyalist BAR ASSOCIATION bastard ATTORNEY who is still (and always will be) just PRACTICING, ("fiddling about") but I guess the professional trade guild BAR Association has a closed shop (monopoly) lock on the LEGAL INDUSTRY.



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Old 11-10-2007, 05:46 PM
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Lawyers are not licensed, they re admitted to the bar. This involves, nowadays, qualifying for and then passing a state's bar exam, being approved by the state's highest court, an oath-taking ceremony and paying an annual fee to keep the bar admission current. The records of who is admitted to practice is kept by the state's highest court (or, by delegation, the state bar), insrtead of the state executive offices for professional and business licenses.
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