Refusing judges sentence

[gregtu]

Originally Posted by kgod999

Good stuff, what im seeing is we have to BELEIVE in what we are doing. Where they get us is holding us hostage and we buckle under. ive done it myself. but, what i should have done is cancel the contracts at the FIRST APPEARANCE where they ask u to plea. this is done within that 72 hr window. Look, a lot of people are still gonna say that we have to stick with the law for this stuff, but i totally disagree. you wanna know why? The reason is simple and we keep ignoring it. The law doesnt matter after u sign them contracts with them. Thats the whole game and if u expose it, they will leave u alone. Yeah, we learn their court procedures, rules, regulations, codes, court cites, this and that, but, contract is LAW. whatever u sign overrides anything in the constitution. Let me give u a example. ive been to jail a couple times on petty stuff but they would always catch me at a bad time financially and i would not be able to bond out and fight the little simple stuff, so what would happen is, and ive seen this repeated numerous times, they will bring u a court appointed attorney with a plea deal from the district attorney office. this usually happens the day of a court appearance. they will hold u in a holding cell and bring the public defender to your cell, and by the way, it most likely the first time u have even spoke or seen him. he will bring in a contract and have u waive every right u have in order to be released that day. Then, and this is where the funny stuff kicks in and you wonder what the hell is going on. They bring u in front of the judge, they have a tape recorder going and a court transcriber speaking into a audio device. (quicker than typing). The first thing the judge asks for is your name. Then he asks for your address. Then he asks you do stand under the charges (do you understand the charges). Then, and this is where EVERYONE , even a certified dummy knows this is fishy, the judge says to you, NOONE OFFERED YOU ANYTHING TO SIGN THIS DEAL DID THEY? Now, what goes thru your mind is this. " i know that judge KNOWS that district attorney got with the public defender and offered me a chance to go home in exchange for a conviction." See, what ive learned from my years of studying its all simple like Rice, WAde, Winston, Jack Smith and all the guru's have been saying all along. Its all about contracts, period. They have u recorded and witnessed saying that you freely waived your constitutional rights. Why are they so adament at getting you to say u did this freely? the why is because they tricked or forced you into a contract and now the law gos out the window, because you enacted a NEW LAW right there in the contract. thats the remedy folks, stop signing their crap and pull their bluff. So, you are a sovereign and TELL THEM what to do up UNTIL you mess up and contract with a bondsman, a attorney or acknowledge in anyway the fraud of jurisdiction that is going on. dont say u dont understand the charges, say u refuse to contract with them in any way and demand to be released.

kgod, you hit it right on the head!!!!

[weishaupt1776]

No doubt that this is 110% true, but if I don't sign that speeding ticket, I get forcibly restrained. If I refuse the contract w/in 72hrs, I have to play guesswork with the system.
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signing the ticket under duress isnt binding u to the contract. thats simple. cancelling the contract within 72 hrs is simple. the whole point i was making is MAKE them call their own bluff. if u dont sign anything, they have nothing. if they lock u up for a few days or hours so be it, thats the price to pay for standing up for your rights and refusing to contract with them. after u do it one time and word gets out, they will not attempt to mess with u again. why would they risk paying a monetary penalty to you if you call their bluff. noone is saying they will not attempt to arrest you. thats a given. the point is, ok, you have arrested me, but im still not signing your contracts. if you have to, sign a bail bond under duress and with reservation of rights. do whatever it takes to put yourself in a position to refuse them contracts.

[weishaupt1776]

Then we should work on drafting a writ of habeus corpus for traffic situations & format it so it may be foldable & ready to fill in.Also, KG, remember the official in DeKalb who made it out on a promisory note? I have the link, maybe you could talk to the man brother to brother & see if you can get a hold of that puppy.
Yup, jail sucks, but this time I'll be there for a good reason. Sometimes you gotta take some hits. I'll spar w/those suckers.
So in summary, we need a writ, a bail out PN w/ HJR192 to back it, & use Marc stevens' "box 'em in' questions at the speedy trial.
This may seem stupid to some of you, but if you "agree with thine adversary" you "lump hot coals on their head". There is no due process. the whole trial is a public relations scheme to give the appearance of fairness. If more people were willing to take some hits w/ a SOUND STRATEGY/BACKUP PLAN, they wouldn't know what to do. They'd have to just start shooting us on site like the gestapos they are.
And, to stay on topic for the sake of this thread; after everything is said & done at the trial & they rule us guilty, REFUSE THE SENTENCE at that administrative tribunal!!!!

[Akira]

Hey All,

Good thread !

I have repeatedly heard of this approach. Now we need a guinea pig.. errr... a first hand witness, from the forum, to test it... lol

If I end up going to trial, I will give it a shot, but I have no court date, as yet.

I have, yet again, modified the "appearance while denying SMJ" opening to accommodate the info, in this thread, and am open to constructive input.


MR. Lastname: For the record.

THE COURT: Yes.

MR. Lastname: My Christian name is Firstname Middlename, and my family name is Lastname.

THE COURT: All right.

MR. Lastname: That is spelled in upper AND lower case letters.

I have responded to this petition, ONLY because it attempts to create a colorable persona, under colorable law, by the name of FIRSTNAME M. LASTNAME, spelled in ALL capital letters, the artifice being used here, to deceive this Honorable Court, must be abated, as a Public Nuisance.

For the record, Firstname Middlename, and Jesus the Christ, Advocate and Wonderful Counselor, are using the Right of Special Visitation, to exercise Ministerial Powers, to be heard on this matter.

I, Firstname Middlename, am a native Mainer, and a Man on the Land, in York County.

I am not a resident, in the District of Maine, nor any other Federal Judicial District.

My Colors and Authority is the Maine Flag of Peace with a single pine tree, in the center, and a blue polar star in the upper left corner. My Law is My Family Bible. And my Status is shown by the Seal of the People.

I am, who I say I am, not who the District Attorney says I am.

I reserve ALL my rights.

I do not recognise you.

I do not consent to these proceedings, nor am I here to conduct business.

I respectfully decline, without exception, any and all offers to contract, with anyone, here today.

I stand on my documents as presented.

Further I sayeth not and I stand mute.

For HIS Glory,
Akira

[weasel]

Is this monologue/these notes your creation?
What are the "documents" that you "stand" on?

this brings up something else. when i was in trouble last year and my mother sent in a writ of habeas corpus to get me into court, she also had sent a bill of exchange for my bond before that and they filed it into the case. now, i believe the bill of exchange isnt the way to go, i would use a promissary note or a bond to get someone out of jail.

[rushpat]

Greg Pappas is back on LibertyForum radio tonight, expanding on this. When it gets archived (Nov 14, 2004), listen to the story of Bill and his Allocution. Very, very interesting stuff. Apparently caused a judge to resign over doing this in a traffic court case. Made quite an impact.

thanx for the heads up. you know something, this thread makes me flash back to soo many situations in family court that ive observed. the people who work for the courts tell soo many lies to get ignorant fathers to waive their constitutional rights, thinking that they have to. i remember a guy waiting in the waiting room one day at the child support office. he was talking to some other guys and he said, "im gonna do the right thing and sign those papers." everybody to a man looked at him and one of them said," yep, we thought that too before we found out we didnt have any rights after signing up for this stuff". another one said, " holla in about a 6 months or so after they start dragging u." the problem with any family court situation is, they handle you like u have committed mass murder after signing them papers. then, i learned from talking a couple of lawyers who admitted that the agencies are taught how to trick u into signing those agreements and waiving all your rights to fight about it. this brings me back to this thread. just say no, like the audio i heard from Greg Pappas. they cannot do anything without your signature and they lie and tell u they can. its all based on them sending out extortion letters, and threats to do this or that to you. and if u do the same, they haul u off to jail for sending threatening letters thru the mail.

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