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Old 11-15-2004, 07:52 AM
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Is this monologue/these notes your creation?
What are the "documents" that you "stand" on?

The original monologue is from "Randy Lee beats the IRS" you can read the original here. I have adapted it to suit my situation, and it has served me well.

The documents 'stood on' are your replies / rebuttals to the complaint affidavit or whatever else you send the court in response to your particular situation.

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Old 11-15-2004, 08:12 AM
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Windwalker Hawke,

Welcome to the forum...

I am intriqued...

Are you one of the webmasters at this site or are you a (remote) member?

I ask, because, it is less than an hours drive to the address listed on the site, and I am always interested in meeting like minded people.

I have read all the content on the site... and have many questions.. most of which, I'm sure you can anticipate..

You say you have a 'charter from congress'. Is this a formal affair, or is authority/duty implied?

The goals listed on the site are common to us all, here at Sui Juris.

The site says "United States Constitution Ranges will aid in the defense of their rights." How?

Is this site concerned with administrative remedies, or is their primary focus on alternatives when administrative remedies are exhausted (militia) ?

Can you disclose some specifics?

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Old 11-15-2004, 08:43 AM
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1) No I am not a webmaster. I live in Arkansas.
2) The Charter is Formal and does imply both duty and authority.
3) Aid comes through formal investigation and first redress through use of the system. We have had some interesting results and expect more after the first of the year.

I can be contacted at:

Richard Stanley; Maness
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Old 11-15-2004, 01:17 PM
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Windwalker Hawke,

Thanks...

After posting this request for info... I sent an e-mail to the link on the website asking same... and recieved a prompt reply from Jim in Massachusettes, along with a brouchure... (which has the same info as the website) lol

Jim bocked on any discussion of the charter... only that it's scope exceeds what can be shared in an email.

His answers were kinda what I expected to hear...

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On the site, it says, "United States Constitution Ranges will aid in the defense of their rights." How?

"Depends. Mostly by being a presence in the community, in the courtroom, or in someone's yard when an overzealous civil servant would have otherwise gone unchecks. As you might imagine, there are way more "opportunities" to witness tyranny than there are people to oppose it."

Your answer:

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( 3) Aid comes through formal investigation and first redress through use of the system. We have had some interesting results and expect more after the first of the year.

hint that there is much more...

Although I have made no decisions about your organization, as yet... I am anxious to talk with some of you (Ed, Scott & Bill in NH) personally.

I appreciate the replies from both of you... and am interested in knowing more...

I'll be in touch...

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Printed synopsis

http://proliberty.com/observer/20050702.htm
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http://www.wealth4freedom.com/law/allocution.htm
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Old 05-16-2006, 12:27 AM
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Interesting how these old threads surface years later...

Does anyone have the audio files mentioned at the start of this thread? I'd like to have a listen, and the links all seem to be dead.
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Old 05-16-2006, 06:47 AM
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I just converted the transcript portion to audio. The link is still working fine.

Randy Lee would probably edit that commentary being that he learns as the years go by. Speaking for myself and not believing in empowering common law with Christianity, the functional components of any good abatement are 1) misnomer and 2) timely Refusal for Cause.

Years ago I had a three page Allocution that had worked for a fellow in federal court. The judge ordered the officer to unlock the cuffs and change the fellow out (give him back his things) in the squad car in front of the jail. The man was not in custody anymore - right there at sentencing. I used components of that allocution for a couple scuffles until I realized and understood the functional components of allocution.

After a while I got a little too confident. At sentencing I simply had my allocution published with my clerk and all it said was a notarized, "I am David Merrill. David Merrill is a native." The allocution worked fine. The traffic judge ordered an undetermined recess. After about fifteen minutes she sent me off to jail. The trial had taken until evening time and the courthouse had already closed. She commented she was taking me directly to jail because of all the other allocutions, in her courtroom and others, where I had simply left the courthouse.

It was encumbent upon me to leave the courthouse and conclude business during that fifteen minute window, when she had no jurisdiction on the record. My sticking around meant that business had not been concluded.

At least I know better now.

Previously in that same judge's courtroom for the same offenses (no tags, driver license, insurance etc.) I was preparing for the trial and was arrested on some other matter about parking tickets I think. The strategy was to break my rhythm. They wanted me to wear a brace on my leg so that I could not run from the courtroom. I refused the brace. Just the same when it came time to leave, even before allocution, (I had verbally abated the State corporation's cause) they took me off to a holding cell on the parking ticket stuff because I had not yet been through booking on them (parking tickets no less!).

Longer story shorter, I was obviously not participating in the trial. There was about a half hour with two deputies in the holding cell pursuading me to get up and go back into the courtroom. I would not budge until they both reached down and lifted me by my arms. Then I simply pointed out that I was in the courtroom against my will and by physical force. After the jury arrived at a guilty verdict in my absence a deputy alerted me in the holding cell. I refused for cause verbally.

I was told to report for a week of jail on Monday afternoon by 5 pm. I showed up in my sweatsuit with a witness. The Undersheriff was a bit annoyed. I showed him my name spelled correctly and a copy of the docket spelled in all upper case. He shouted, "What!? You think I am going to arrest you? No way!"

My witness and I went to the other jail and got a politer version of the same thing from the Lieutenant.

Tuesday morning I approached the clerk while booting up her computer, "Tell Sylvia XXXX that superior court would like to have a word with her." She said, "...yeah." She got up and went back into chambers. Ten minutes later I did not rise when Sylvia came in wearing her black robe. My witness and I sat for over an hour without her so much as making eye contact with me. We left and that was the last of it until she mentioned the event while sending me to jail years later. She fully remembered me.



Regards,

David Merrill.


P.S. Sylvia did not survive reappointment. For whatever reason, she was soon gone from the courthouse.
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Old 05-17-2006, 11:21 AM
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refusing judges sentence

whats the importance of stating you are NATIVE?
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Old 05-17-2006, 12:08 PM
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I tend to wonder if DM (or anybody) can actually attest to being a native. According to the logic that others have enunciated on this forum, DM cannot state of his own eyewitness knowledge that he was born in a particular jurisdiction; he'd have to depend on other people for that information.
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