Upcomming Court

Ok I will start off by explaining what happened.

I payed child support till my ex moved out of state to across the country, WITHOUT proper notice, I sent her a letter saying I do not agree and would not support her anymore.

I live in the state next to the contracting state, they served paperwork to ALL CAPS I accepted under duress.

Sent it back R4C with in 72hrs.

around 3 months later (last weeked) I got arrested (kidnapped) cops saw me handcuffed me put me in the car, they never asked who I was, or read me my rights. I just acted polite and kept saying I do not consent to anything.

took me to booking, I would not sign or fill out any paperwork and if they asked questions I just said im not a lawyer, I cant answer that. When they went to take my picture and finger print me I told them I cant its against my personal beliefs, they told if I dont im going to the hole, I said im sorry these are my personal beliefs. So they put me in the cell the size of a walk in closet (freezing cold) They slide some jail shoes through the door, I slide them back and said I do not except. I sat there for about a hour before I demand to be released that I have been kidnapped, the jailer came to the door I said I have to be released and I have to use the restroom, she replied thats why theres a grate in the floor.

so I pissed on the floor, it went under the door into the booking area, im sitting on the floor on the other side of the cell and suddenly I see a rush of water coming under the door (twice) they pored 2 buckets of water into the cell, I got un in time and go on the raised area used as a bed. I sat there for 7 hours in a freezing cell I was so cold I stopped shaking, I told them, I would do what they want, if they stopped the torture.

so I did the booking and bailed out

So had my day in court, I went in and the judge sent every one before me to jail till they paid $1000 (not bail). I got up there scared out of my wites but kept my cool. I did not fill out the paper work they gave me before the hearing, I told here could not contract with her, I explained what was going on with my ex and teh judge scheduled a docket for a month.

I dont have a contract with them, I live without any contracts, I work for my self, I dont take benefits from them.

I am writing up a Affidavit of Human Being, stating I am not a fiction, but still working on it Im not just writing my info in on a template Im trying to write my own but am needing ideas of what to put in there. any ideas on what I can add to this or ways to confront the judge.

I got about 30 days to get ready

[bruce77]

call 911 on all the parties involved and arrest them. Randy Kelton on http://ruleoflawradio.com/ did just that. He has a radio show on www.wtprn.com thursdays at 8:00 PM CST they have archives on previous shows.

[Thom1776]

Do you want to be a U.S. citizen and try to fight these people within the legal system?

Or, do you want to assert your natural sovereignty and just have these people leave you alone?

I am claiming sovereignty

[Thom1776]

Originally Posted by FBIman

I am claiming sovereignty

OK. Firstly, you don't have to "claim" anything.

The burden of proof is ALWAYS ON THEM to show that you knowingly and willingly volunteered into their jurisdiction as a U.S. citizen. It's a private club, and you are NOT a member. What proof do they have that you are?

You have to transform your thinking so that you eat, sleep and breathe this stuff: "I AM A SOVEREIGN. NO GROUP OF MEN HAS THE RIGHT TO COMMAND ME ANY MORE THAN ANY INDIVIDUAL MAN DOES."

The Thirteenth Amendment to THEIR CONstitution forbids the existence of "involuntary servitude" in the United States or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

The Fourteenth Amendment specifies who citizens of the United States are. Citizens ARE subject to their jurisdiction and they can pretty much do whatever they want to them, including; proceed against them in their courts using their statutes.

Bruce posted a link above for those who want to be citizens and try to fight them within THEIR system using THEIR rules.

Well, if you go to that same website, you will find the archives of a gentleman who calls himself Eric Whoru. He did his last show on WTPRN Tuesday night. He is now doing a conference call here: http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web...1248&cmd =tsl

I suggest you listen to the WTPRN archives to learn more. http://mp3.wtprn.com/WhoRU08.html

This is your first step. Learn as much as you can from this and then I can tell you some additional things that you need to know.

(one note: in his earlier shows, at least going back to early in 2008, Eric stated that governments were FICTIONAL entities. He has since corrected this to ARTIFICIAL entities.)

Thom

[Lawdog]

Originally Posted by FBIman

I am claiming sovereignty

And you see how well that's worked for you so far.

Don't play games with the judicial system, my boy. It's not worth it.

The sooner you discuss your case with a lawyer, the better. If you cannot afford one, check into Legal Services; they provide free or reduced cost representation in civil cases, just like the Public Defender does in criminal cases.

Good luck.

[Thom1776]

Originally Posted by Lawdog

The sooner you discuss your case with a lawyer, the better.

Yeah. I did that. I payed him $750 up front, and all he wanted to do was make a deal with the prosecutor.

Lawyers are crooks. They are agents of the court. They cannot be trusted.

FBIman, you have to ignore anyone who says "get a lawyer", here. That pretty much defeats the purpose of this forum.

You've many contracts; you just don't realize it. Your legal divorce [modified State marriage] is one for which your being cited for breaking.

Why R4C after accepting under duress? You either accept (under duress or not) or refuse (for whatever reason); not both.

#1 Rule in court:

Unrebutted presumptions stand as evidence- and they needn't be announced.

Hire/bring your own court reporter, and have your rebuttals legally recorded. Judges commonly edit their court records to their advantage. Making your own will keep things fairer.

Find the rules for recording oaths of office and see if the judge has, in fact, properly followed them. If not, note it on record to disqualify him/her.

Immediately, politely inquire on record as to the court's jurisdiction- before you even state a legal name: 'Equity, admiralty, or common law, as provided for in the Constitution which you've taken oath to uphold, Prosecutor?'

It's for the prosecution to confirm. When the judge intervenes to help the prosecutor dodge the question, you might note for the record your presumption that the court has none, since the judge seems not to allow an answer, thereby denying you due process of law. On this basis, move for abatement. Judge will deny/ignore it, but the record will show your immediate dissent.

Again, the judge will attempt to cir***vent you by trying to proceed without allowing an answer. If you raise no formal objection, you (tacitly) consent/ contract, giving the court personal jurisdiction.

When requested/ required to plead, you might ask, 'What happens if I do not plead?' The rules of administration require the judge to enter a plea of 'Not Guilty' for you; he'll tell you as much, to which you might reply, 'Then, only under duress of being denied my right to due process of law do I plead 'Not Guilty.'' Again, you'll likely be ignored.

Object to taking an oath before a court without knowing it's rightful authority over you. If "warned" of [threatened with] incarceration for contempt, make your affirmation 'only under duress'.

When questioned further, you might repeat, 'I do not understand this proceeding and cannot make a legal determination as to the fact.'

Let the record show that you're incapable of standing trial, and that the court is incapable of hearing/ lawfully subjecting you, or of lawfully administrating remedy.

Good luck.

I actually dont have any contracts with the state, Im working on my paperwork to show them I am a man of the land and not a corp.

I listen to WTRN everyday theres tons of good info on there.

[Thom1776]

FBIman, if you want to be sovereign, you can't submit or proceed in court to anything the judge or prosecutor may offer you.

If you want to proceed as a citizen, then do what slofu posted above.

Eric Whoru has been at this for 44 years. He walked out of federal tax court in 1970 a free man. I have learned much from him. After three months of listening, studying and talking with Eric, I walked out of criminal court a free man.

If you truly want to assert your sovereignty, you too, can walk out of court a free man.