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ABA claims jury duty a privilege...
JURY SERVICE — IT'S A PRIVILEGE!
By Robert J. Grey Jr, President,
American Bar Association
There are more than 80,000 jury trials in this country every year, at which nearly a million people serve as jurors. The jury system is vital to the America’s justice system: few activities in our civic life involved as many people, have as great an effect, or give citizens such direct involvement with our democracy as jury service.
Americans believe in and support jury service. A recent public opinion poll by Harris Interactive for the American Bar Association showed that, contrary to popular portrayals of jury service as burdensome, most people (75 percent of those surveyed) believe strongly that jury service is important regardless of inconveniences; and 58 percent view jury duty as a privilege, one they look forward to having. And 75 percent want their case to be heard by a jury if they are ever involved in a trial.
Despite this enthusiasm, courts across the country report low response rates to jury summonses. Americans must understand that the system they so respect works only when they are actively involved. To help bridge this gap, the ABA Commission on the American Jury is working to encourage people to serve on a jury when summoned and selected, and to help the legal profession and the courts improve jurors’ experiences. The commission offers several tips to prepare you for when you are summoned, and makes suggestions about what to do and expect if you are selected to sit on a trial.
When you receive your jury summons . . .
Tell your employer right away that you’ve been called to serve.
Dress respectfully when you go to the courthouse.
Be prepared to fill some down time—bring something to read, crossword puzzles, etc.
Answer all questions you are asked—honestly and completely.
If there is something you don’t understand, ask the judge or other court personnel.
When you sit on a trial . . .
Use only the evidence you are given—don’t do your own "research."
If you have questions, ask the court.
Follow the court’s instructions.
During deliberations, respect each person’s opinions.
Jury service is every citizen’s responsibility. Those of us who’ve had the privilege of serving overwhelming report it as a rewarding experience. Educating yourself about your role as a juror is the best way to ensure that yours is, too.
--- Anyone surprised by the explicit instructions from the bar to potential jurors?
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01-12-2005, 03:32 AM
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It's a "privilege" to be a corrupt union boss in one of the most powerful unions.
Dear potential juror(s),
[No bar card is going to tell you this but] You have a duty to examine the evidence of the case and its merits. But you also have the duty to rule on the law applicable to the cause and its validity. If you all should agree that the law is wrong then guess what...the law is wrong! That's is what the aba union guy was dancing around. Maybee we should ask this union boss why bar cards conspire to keep the jurors from doing their job...like in the Simkanin trial...
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01-12-2005, 04:02 AM
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Another important thing to remember is that juries are to be selected from your peers. That means people who live in your neighborhood; people who know you and whether you are capable of the crime you have been accused of. It is not about picking a jury who will convict you. This is one reason why so many have a change of venue. It is either the prosecuting attorney cannot get a guilty verdict or the case has been so corrupted by flasely trying and convicting the individual in the press they must move it, which the prosecution loves. The falsely trying and convicting, is in my opinion, deliberate so ones peers do not have a chance to find you innocent and nullify a bad law. Attorneys and Judges literally hate informed jurors.
By the way it was Simkanin and not Sinkman trial. THought I would straighten that out.
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08-20-2007, 01:15 AM
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Informed jury
Everybody on this site should be aware of FIJA.org thats Full Informed Jury Association.org and should be telling everybody they know about it. If all Americans were aware of their duty there would be VERY few convictions.........in American law (Common law) unless the accused has harmed another citizen (c) they have done nothing wrong, it does not matter if another citizen (c)wants to use drugs, transport themselves by way of motorcarrage at 100 m.p.h. or carry a weapon to protect themselves.......its not your business..it's Gods..not yours or the Governments....if you simply do not like the statute find not guilty, if the penalty is too harsh,....not guilty.......not sure,,,,,,not guilty..judge not less you be judged (by the same standards).it's o.k. to judge under common law we are living under Martial law rule, have been since the Civil war get over it , learn how to shut em down! Just don't forget your other dutys in life. (like say, saving your Soul for instance)...lol
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08-20-2007, 01:28 PM
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Yes! Finally the ABA speaks a morsel of truth. Sitting at/on one of their juries is a privilege offered to anyone that has shown compliance with the corporate rules of their society. Of course, once you are chosen to exercise that privilege, you are also required to submit to their instructions as to how you will find the defendant guilty as charged. You will be given their strict interpretation of what law you can use in rendering your decision; you will be given their list of evidence and told how that evidence is superrior to any that the opposing litigant should offer; but most importantly, you will be told that you cannot use any God given right of decency in making your decision; that you can only adhere to the instructions of the court(judge). Yes it is a privilege that only the slaves of the corporate system can enjoy.
Jerry.
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08-20-2007, 02:46 PM
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Well WB, that emphasizes my point. Felons are those that are known to have violated their corporate rules of their society. Therefore, they have been stripped of that privilege, as would anyone who claims they are not a citizen or those that make known their intent to exercise the jury nullification process.
I have always stated that anyone running for public office, should be requirred to spend at a minimum of 5 years behind the bars of a real prison as part of their prerequisite learning to be qualified to hold the position of public servant. If they did, then that would end a lot of the lies that are told during the campaign. We all already suspect what can be expected from a known felon.
Jerry
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08-20-2007, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Jerry Pitts
Yes! Finally the ABA speaks a morsel of truth. Sitting at/on one of their juries is a privilege offered to anyone that has shown compliance with the corporate rules of their society. Of course, once you are chosen to exercise that privilege, you are also required to submit to their instructions as to how you will find the defendant guilty as charged. You will be given their strict interpretation of what law you can use in rendering your decision; you will be given their list of evidence and told how that evidence is superrior to any that the opposing litigant should offer; but most importantly, you will be told that you cannot use any God given right of decency in making your decision; that you can only adhere to the instructions of the court(judge). Yes it is a privilege that only the slaves of the corporate system can enjoy.
Jerry.
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Furthermore, jury tampering is a reality of life,
as existence of jury is not a guarantee of Due Process,
the way lawyers manage to pervert anything.
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I would go a step further:
bankers and politicians just squeeze this country to its skeleton
but, without lawyers, the former could never achieve their fraud.
Wherever it stinks, lawyers are marching.
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PS.
Of course, there are decent lawyers too
but the percentage is unbelievably low.
How many have you encountered personally?
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08-20-2007, 10:39 PM
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lawyers
I personally know one lawyer who is a fine upstanding (C)itizen, very smart, #2 in his class at Berkeley! They were able to train him to be a prosicutor no less, and when i questioned him about the pervision of the english language/......... Citizen and citizen/...."Individual"...."person" sovergins and such he was like "what are you talking about!" so its obvious many young lawyers are innocent, they have been taught proceedure only, this guy could give you the ten Commandments backwards and forwards!....He knows the seven deadly sins...........don't have any idea about the constitution state or federal (indepth)..he knows nothing about (c)itizens without a social security number simply because (almost) anyone who would ever be before him HAS ONE!! A (c)itizen without one is considered sovereign and statutes do not apply. This guy will be dealing with traffic stuff as a new Lawyer'.Most lawyer Do know the scam and go along for the money....pure evil ,...the ABA could single handidly FIX everything but the chances of that happening are slim....I found the CA CODE 6060.6 is the code that states you must take the number (social Security) to BE a lawyer.....How evil is that! These legistlators are laughfing in our faces and saying screw you "we are the Beast"...evil lawyers/evil CODE number unbelieveable, Say your prayers, and resist as best you can which is pretty easy in you do not understand the nature and cause of the statutory charges againsed you you cannpot be arraigned therefore no due process! Also you have a RIGHT TO EFFECTIVE ASSISTANCE OF COUNSEL RIGHT?...well no Lawyers will sign MY simple contract! Kinda throws a screw in the gears of your local court!.......... LOL........Then they get tired of ya!!
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08-20-2007, 10:59 PM
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Catholicboy made a valid point among others
that many lawyers, truly are not aware of the real laws and
reality of life itself as live in a cocoon, being indoctrinated
into the system.
That is why the system has such control over its members -
the Orwellian worlds has materialized for them a while ago.
They are willing and some are unaware soldiers of the
real force which guides them (via their minions,)
sitting far in their villas on their, private islands.
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