
01-21-2005, 06:26 PM
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Refuse offer to contract?
I see in traffic situations it is recommended to refuse the offer to contract by returning the ticket and staying out of court.
Can this be used with the CC If Bank or Debt Atty. files a complaint and court issues a summons?
Return the summons like the traffic ticket?
After all aren't they really suing the fictional commercial entity (ALL CAPS) not you the natural man - the authorized signer (fiduciary for the fiction)
Seems like it should be the same type of thing. Except they claim you have already contracted with them (the bank). But since the fictional commercial entity can be sued as a "person" and because it is not a human being, it has to be represented by someone in court. So they want to drag you, the human being, in to court as the officer of the corporation or trustee for the trust, authorized signer and representative.
Except you don't go to court the bank gets default judgment against the fiction. Then they garnish your checking account.
They could do this with a judgment because your checking account is also the fiction (ALL CAPS) with you only being the authorized signer. Couldn't they also send the sheriff to take you car which is also registered to the (ALL CAPS) and attach your paycheck because it is paid to the (ALL CAPS)?
We as the human being have nothing we have everything in a trust named (ALL CAPS)
Would each thing - bank acct, car, paycheck be it's own separate commercial entity, trust?
Is it possible to withraw yourself as the authorized representative for the ALL CAPS in regards to the car and yet remain authorized representative for the bank acct. and the paycheck?
Thanks for bearing with me as I try to make sense of this and work through it.
ABC CORP gets sued by CCC.
CCC gets default judgment.
I remove myself as officer of ABC CORP.
ABC CORP owes a debt from a default judgment
ABC CORP owes this no matter who is the officer of the corp.
They garnish and attach ABC CORP assets - all assets
I have no further say in stopping this as I am no longer officer of ABC CORP
There has to be a way out of this spider web.
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01-21-2005, 06:42 PM
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traffic ticket
kill the controversy by submitting a bond with a power of attorney over the strawman, that way, the money they say you owe in the contract is gone, you can make the bond contigent on them providing proof of claim,(verified complaint or contract) wheres their argument now, you dont wanna go messing around with not showing up for a hearing. do your paperwork by restricted special appearance and has a third party intervenor, they still will not have jurisdiction that way.
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01-22-2005, 04:41 AM
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Mental Jujitsu
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Get you money out of their banks.
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01-22-2005, 06:46 PM
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Re:refuse offer to contract.
Sadie,here is how it works:first reject the offer to contract within the time frame,72 hours.
Second,use the Rmedy,affidavit of denial of corporate existence.Serv it to all parties,including the Court.
The Remedy will knock off all the (ALL CAPS ),all PERSONS and any prsumtion
of corporate existence.
Fight THEM from the outside of Court.
One more thing to keep in mind,the bank signature card.
Update it from time to time.
The proper way to do it is to get a form from the bank,fill in the blanks,using
the proper english,make all the right reservations,write on the top with red
ink,non-commercial,not a corporation.
Never reserve constitutional rights:they do not exist.
Remember,you have natural rights.
Never claim to be a citizen=subject,res-ident but,man or woman.
I always claim as nationality,North American.
By using the Remedy in connection with any rejection of offer to contract,
you cut THEIR appetite to re-offer you another contract.
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01-22-2005, 08:47 PM
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contracts
if you sign the ticket under duress, that voids it even if you dont cancel within the 72 hours.
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01-22-2005, 09:29 PM
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Offer to contract.
Signing under duress has its own merit,however since we are dealing with
a criminal institution( violators of rights),it is better not to take any chances.
It is preferable,if is possible,to return the offer without being signed.
Never recognize,or accept a contract that doesn't have your signature on it.
If a "judge" is using a rubber-stamp for a signature,do not accept it.
A bail-bond should always be signed "through coercion and under duress",and
must be returned within 72 hours.
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01-24-2005, 07:53 AM
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kgod999
what is a third party intervenor?
what is this bond everyone is talking about?
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01-24-2005, 07:55 AM
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Thank you all. I'm not talking about tickets here I am talking about CCC law suits and trying to approach the same was as tickets if possible.
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