
01-24-2005, 04:06 AM
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Court Orders
Periodically, my minds start working on out of the box methods to achieve our goals of freedom. This process came across me recently and i would like input on this. The scenario is this. Judges in America today are NOT judges, but public EMPLOYEES, with the INCORRECT oath of office on file. They swear oaths to the corporate UNITED STATES and not the united states of America. This is the first key to the puzzle of why i believe the courts are TOTALLY COMMERCIAL in nature. Now, if you add this right here:There have not been any Judges in America since 1789. There have just been Administrators. (FRC v. GE 281 US 464, Keller v. PE 261 US 428 1Stat. 138-178) . Ok, now, if that case law is true, which makes sense since judges are administrative EMPLOYEES AS EVIDENCED BY THEIR OATHS OF OFFICE, and the fact they pay tax, violation of article 3 of Constitution (salary cannot be reduced as a JUDGE!!!) Now, this is where im heading with all this. Every state has statutes that say the clerk of court will record all ORDERS, JUDGMENTS, ETC. of the court. Now, since a judge is just a Public Servant, why cannot I AS THE MASTER, record my own ORDER for the clerk to record. See, we keep looking for the judges to sign our orders for us, and im starting to believe that once you get your default in whatever method you use, you record your own order which is the order to zero the account. If the clerk comes back and say only judges can submit orders,tell them " show me a JUDGE in this court who has submitted a order." They are not judges, just public employees and if we choose to contract with them, our orders carry as much weight in that administrative realm as theirs. Wait, theres more! Look at this definition of a clerk of court:clerk of court
"Officer appointed by court or elected to oversee administrative, NONJUDICIAL activities of the court". They are admitting right there that NOTHING judicial is going on down at the courthouse!
Last edited by kgod999 : 01-24-2005 at 04:24 AM.
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01-24-2005, 04:33 AM
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Order
True, True. Look at this. I love Ice, Sui Juris and others who have helped me in this stuff, and there is some controversy regarding the redemption stuff. I believe we have come BACK full circle to redemption also and here is why. The majority of the words they use in the "court" are commercial in nature. Theres no getting around that. So, we can harp common law all day long or constitution all day long, but, there HAS to be a reason they ignore that. Is it just simply the fact that we have put people in power who love the power and will not let it or the system go down , or, is it that we are defaulting in commercial nature and dont know it when they charge us? I personally believe that if you keep it all simple, its all of the above. They are defaulting us and love it. I have a friend who sales cellphones and he said a guy came into the store a week ago and didnt wanna wait and stated "My name is Judge Joe Blow, im a superior court judge and im not waiting, you guys need to help me now." This is a true story folks. ( I wouldve called the police after ordering him to stop disturbing the public peace and making threats). Anyway, back on point, the court is purely administrative commercial in nature, and, the bond IS THE KEY, like you said. They hurried up and sealed a case i was dealing with when i submitted a bond. Why is it when i submit writs of habeas corpus, they shuck and jive, but when i submitted a bond, they couldnt wait to seal the case. So, it goes back to this, the bond kills the controversy, so after submitting the bond,( in a case where you submit a bond instead of asking them to give you back a bond), we need to submit language thanking the court for doing business and the account (case) is closed. Dont ask them to state the account is closed, because, if you do, you recontract and open the case up again. We need to get public record of the account (case) being closed by the principal (us). I truly believe The Most High has given us the remedy now after patience. We kept waiting on the new debtor (court) to do something when we as the creditor need to handle our affairs. Im seeing talk of this veery briefly in other forums as well. Now, this isnt a i know it all process and i dont pretend to say this process doesnt have flaws, but , i KNOW im on the correct course because of THEIR reactions to my documents.
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01-24-2005, 05:04 AM
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Kgod999. could you elaborate a little more on your docs ?? please.
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01-24-2005, 07:12 AM
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i just submitted a bond along with a writ of habeas corpus. there are examples of bonds with rice mcleod's material.
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01-24-2005, 10:18 AM
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Orders
yes, i have recently started reading keating's stuff. It all makes sense, they want you to sign all kinds of stuff so that they can contract you. Its all PURE DEVILISHMENT. The weapon we have though is fraud, lack of disclosure and the ability to cure the default. They HAVE to give remedy. Everything makes sense when you look at this from strictly a commercial nature. They dont care about case law, constitution, rules, regulations or anything else, its all about defaulting you. Where we can stick them is getting our defaults into the public record and stop asking them to do it for us.
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01-24-2005, 11:20 AM
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writ of habeas corpus
does anyone know where I can get my eyes on a sample writ of habeas corpus ?
when I look into the statutes for the so called state I'm not in, it's extremly vague if not completely understandable, it uses abbreviations that are not defined in that section, like E.F. A.B. and C.D. amongst others. it's enough to pi$$ you off!!
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01-24-2005, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by wargames102
I am sure that we all have had are run-in's with the so-called Redemption process. Infact, I believe that when I researched "redemption" in the NIV the old text mentioned it around 273 times, and the new text brought up the issue around 75 times.
So, in my conclusion... there is some substance to this redemption theory.
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So in the original NIV's, the word "redemption" was used 4 times more than in modern NIV's? That makes sense since the Illuminati is behind modern Bible Translations.
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Originally Posted by wargames102
After further research I think I, as some others, have figured out that there was a serious problem with "Your Honor I Request That The Order Be Released To Me Due To The Fact That We Have No Further Business To Conduct".
In short, the answer to the riddle is: Replace the word "Order" with "Bond" and we have now found our answer.
It is the Bond that is to be released to me, cuz it is mine!
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So the bond is originally on the STRAWMAN, but since he is all liened up & you are the authorized rep, you are requesting the release?
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Originally Posted by wargames102
Kgodd: The Order/Judgment is the Bond recorded with the Clerk of Court and further utilized in securites traded around the world. ("Clerk's Praxis")
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Where are the docs to substantiate that position?
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Originally Posted by wargames102
All Others: 7211 7 CFR says that all crimes are commercial.
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That is definitely a Big Gold Nugget which I overlook from time to time
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Originally Posted by wargames102
The United States Court of International Trade...
... has exclusive jurisdiction... to recover upon a bond relating to the importation of merchandise required by the laws of the United States or by the Secretary of the Treasury.
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01-24-2005, 12:47 PM
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Commercial Affidavit of Truth
So I've been looking over the CAT Michael Grady has been working on and I've listened to all his recorded conversations on his web site at CATfreedom.com and it sounds like he is really giving the courts and the government a dose of their own medicine. He has done a ton of research to put his CAT together and is sounds like he has them in a box they can't get out of. He wants to get a CAT filed in all 50 states and when he does, all you have to do is attach to it and it puts a stop to all actions against you. Has anyone else here listened to him or looked over his CAT? What do you think of this guy?
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01-24-2005, 12:56 PM
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Is this accomplished w/o the UCCFS?
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01-24-2005, 07:35 PM
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Orders
First, wargames, why did you delete your post, it makes following this thread confusing now to others. Second, weishupt, look up the definition of statute and you will see the EVIDENCE AND FACT that the judgment against you IS a bond or money judgment. Third, the cat documents, you need a rocket scientist to figure those documents out. They look good, Grady needs to put up a explanation page for those documents. I dont like submitting something i dont overstand and lastly on the subject of cats, Grady seems to be emphasizing the rights of military personnel, i dont know how this all applies to everything else. Lastly, do the uccfs anyway, have as many weapons as you can. its the security agreement between you and the strawman that is the meat of that situation, the uccfs is just public record of the private security agreement.
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