Im a missing something here?

Look, why is it someone will admit that the judicial system is corrupt, and in the next breath, tell you that you need to learn the law in order to win in court and dont use "patroit stuff"? huh? if the LAW WORKED, there would be no need for redemption stuff, patroit stuff, sovereignty stuff. it aint the people who have the problem. i can read, why is it you can paint your car blue, go to court and petition the judge to declare that the car is blue, and he dismiss for failure to state a claim? what im getting at is, if tha law worked, there would be no sui juris.net. no awaregroup, no commonlaw venue, no any of the hundreds of websites and organizations promoting freedom. Now to the why i made this post. i contacted the erwin rommel school of law about suggestions for study in the law arena so i could implement so of THEIR LAW into my stuff. i mentioned to tha "school" that im a sovereign man, (The Most High's Word), my body is my temple. I didnt proclaim myself sovereign, The Most High did. anyway, tha people didnt like me saying i was sovereign and here is a snippet of the email i got back from them:
"y suggestion: stop listening to Patriot Bull****, aka "Patriot Mythology", like:

a) I'm a sovereign
b) You cant persue me in this court, there's gold fringe around the flag
c) You can't charge me with taxes, I don't live in a zip code

and starting learning civil & criminal procedure and appeallate procedure.

http://members.aol.com/rommellaw

If you have no money, you are guilty of the most heinous crime in America: you are too poor to litigate, or too poor to fight.

It costs "money" to file complaints, and to file for appeal. That's the way it is. I dont make the rules, I just play the game...

When you are finished mentally masturbating in the legal DisneyLand you are now immersed in, contact me. Training winning in pro per litigants is my business.

Sincerely

Peter Jon Simpson
Erwin Rommel School of Law"
Now, back to why i made this post, huh? again, if tha law worked, if tha system worked, then the 99 percent of civil rights cases that get throwed out of court wouldnt have gotten thrown out. You know what, im not giving ervin rommel my money, im gonna learn my stuff myself. Just like the silly email i got from lawyerdude. Im not stupid by far and i know 2 thirds of the people on the websites are agents anyway pretending to be freedom movers. forget them all. i dont need none of them.

[suijuris]

Kgod,

After reading your post, I am wondering if I am the one missing something. Could you please clarify what portions (if any) you are quoting from Peter Jon and what portions are your own rantings?

Your presence is appreciated here but sometimes I have trouble following along...

i clarified what portions were mine by stating " this is a portion of the email i received" followed by the text. then i ended it with : back to why i made this post. everything in between were his words. I made this post because i wanted to order some books from these people. i told them that when i got arrested a few years ago, i didnt have the money to bond out of jail at that time so i did a plea deal. The guy responded with all the crap you see in the email snippet. It was just like when i emailed lawyerdude about his products, he went off. Now, let me clarify something sui juris. I dont rant off about personal problems. The guy i emailed was RANTING OFF about whatever. This post was to talk exactly about that, why is it these people jump to conclusions and RANT off about THEIR opinions about these things? You said yourself that sui juris is possibly involved in a SMEAR CAMPAIGN by other forums. They are ranting? I made this post to let people in sui juris know the mindset of a service provider that you have listed here at sui juris.

[rearguard]

The legal system is so complex, fraudulent and arbitrary that no one can understand it. It has become that way for many reasons, but the people who feed off the system have a stake in making sure they are needed, and they will protect their interests by making sure the system is inaccessible to all but a privileged few.

The worse thing we can do is to play along and give these fraudsters our money for their protection services. The more money they get, the more reason to keep the system in a state of perpetual corruption.

How many of you can go into court by yourself and know what to do?

If a man cannot defend himself by his own means, then he is defensless.

If a man is defensless, then he has no rights he can protect, and as a result, he will be a slave.

By all means, we have to learn how to protect ourselves, but we sure as hell won't get there by investing our money and time into learning a legal system that is arbitrary and riddled with corruption.

That's my opinion anyway.

[charlene]

The only thing that we have going for us is Commercial-Law. I know some whom do not beleive in the ucc filings, but if you do not secure your rights you have no rights, we secure ours thru our ucc 1 filing. We are the attorney in fact of the strawman/strawwomen--we have the power of attorney over the strawman/woman-all of the all capital NAME we control. we represent
him or her. No one else can make a legal determination for the strawperson, that the goverment created. It boils down to all of the commercial affairs of strawman/women are controled by us. Ask them where is their CONTRACT? They do not have one, unless you give them one. The answer is they cannot have a contract on the strawman/woman WE HOLD THE CONTRACT. Forget about Maritime etc. All crimes are commercial -all Commercial Law is CONTRACT LAW. Every state is different in respect to statues and codes.
Always check your states revised codes, to be sure you know where you are walking. I have posted nothing new here. Just a different version.
Charlene
This is just my opinion.

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[charlene]

Sir,
Apprantley I have scared you. No I do not do a spell check any big time lawyer can figure out words. DUH- And I posted what I have learned on my own since 1999 no web site help. I have keep all the hounds away from my door and I have keep myself out of courts. How? CONTRACT LAW- STUPID. AND FURTHER MORE, IUNDERSTAND YOU ARE NOT WHOM YOU SAY YOU ARE.
i HAVE A SOLID FOUNDATION TO STAND ON, WHAT DO YOU HAVE?
Do not bother to reply. It will not be read. When you are 60 years old, as Iam then maybe you will have learned somethig. If you could read I said in my post that what I posted was my OPINION. I will not use this forum to battle
your thoughts, anyone can post web sites. How many people have you helped on this forum and on the aware group? have a great life.
Charlene
Columbus, Ohio

[Lawyerdude]

Originally Posted by kgod999

i clarified what portions were mine by stating " this is a portion of the email i received" followed by the text. then i ended it with : back to why i made this post. everything in between were his words. I made this post because i wanted to order some books from these people. i told them that when i got arrested a few years ago, i didnt have the money to bond out of jail at that time so i did a plea deal. The guy responded with all the crap you see in the email snippet. It was just like when i emailed lawyerdude about his products, he went off. Now, let me clarify something sui juris. I dont rant off about personal problems. The guy i emailed was RANTING OFF about whatever. This post was to talk exactly about that, why is it these people jump to conclusions and RANT off about THEIR opinions about these things? You said yourself that sui juris is possibly involved in a SMEAR CAMPAIGN by other forums. They are ranting? I made this post to let people in sui juris know the mindset of a service provider that you have listed here at sui juris.

Lawyerdude says: If you want to order lawbooks and actually learn some law, I recommend USED lawbooks off the internet. Ebay and Amazon both have lawbooks. You may need a friend to buy them for you if you don't have credit cards and money, ebay account, a money order or whatever.

I am lawyerdude. I don't sell any products. That is why you may have experienced discomfort.

Kgod999, you write like a person experiencing anxiety and mental disease.

Your recommendation of Earl Rommell products labels you as a sucker !

Earl Rommell markets to the stupid.

Earl Rommell School of Law is a rip off. Nobody there has actually gone to law school. You would be lucky to find a high school graduate. But they need to buy fuel and food. A small deception is preferably to starvation.

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Do you have a regular income?
What is your telephone number, name, address, and email address, please?

You are not making rational decisions.
The UCC people are ignorant liars.

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