Arrested for a BOE !!!!

[squirrel]

I agree with Jerseee, a friend mine was doing just fine living life without any problems under the brusheers method, he had one last thing to take care of because he was still under CONTRACT with bb by way of a DL when he got a dac, so he tried the ecceptance garbage in the chambers of commerce and then proceeded to discharge the debt by way of ucc-1&1ad. WHAT A BIG MISTAKE!! now he's got these traitors of the republic comin from every angle, it's like he never rescinded any CONTRACTS at all. let that be a lesson to all, you play in the devils playground you will LOSE! I mean come on, do you think they would set up a system whereby they might lose every so often, I dont think so. if and when they do lose someone is probably getting paid off.

[seeker]

squirrel;

What is this brusheers method your refer to? I am not familiar with that. Can you explain.





Meanwhile, I have been studying the code (specifically ILL code which is their UCC) for the cites on our CC court case motions. I found this interesting --



"(810 ILCS 5/3409) (from Ch. 26, par. 3?409) Sec. 3-409. Acceptance of draft; certified check.

(a) "Acceptance" means the drawee's signed agreement to pay a draft as presented. It must be<u> written on the draft</u> and may consist of the drawee's signature alone. <u>Acceptance may be made at any time and becomes effective when notification pursuant to instructions is given or the accepted draft is delivered for the purpose of giving rights on the acceptance to any person</u>. (b) A draft may be accepted although it has not been signed by the drawer, is otherwise incomplete, is overdue, or has been dishonored. "



So, to my eyes, this means you can take their bill/statement (their presentment) and write accepted for value and sign it and that becomes your presentment to them. This section also speaks of Documentary Draft -- which is a presentment made with conditions (ie a conditional Acceptance) According to Black's Fifth Edition -- "A 'documentary draft' is one the honor of which is conditioned upon the presentation of a document or documents" -- our VoD?



Jersee, Ice, is my critical thinking on task or have I strayed??



Thanks!



Seeker

[dashboy]

Perhaps my statements were harsh! I'll be the first to apologize for them. I should have been more tactful. But that doesnt change the facts. Why would they post something like that and not provide any followup? I'm not saying whether the Ucc1 with BOE process is right or wrong. In fact I have seen it work for some. But I myself was not conviced it worked well enough the majority of the time and without a serious court fight. I just felt that something seemed a little fishy by the claims they made. Of course I nor anyone else have anyway to verify their claims nor can I disprove their claims. So I'll shutup know!

[squirrel]

seeker. It's called strategic withdrawel by Burney Brushears, how you gave up your rights for legal disabilities and how to reclaim them. You can find it on www.JeffOtto.com/. what I see going on is you cannot exercise any rights if you are an instrumentality of the UNITED STATESTitle 28 U.S.C sec 3002 15 (c), or a corporation created by the laws of the UNITED STATES Title 16 sec 2432 10 ( ( iv) or vessels Title 46 sec 12102 in whole. slaves have no rights which would mean NO REMEDY. I see this ucc garbage as that, GARBAGE. To me I se it as a way for the ptb to steal more substance from the general populance with false hopes and beliefs. Erie RailRoad v. Tompins NO CONTRACT, NO CASE. Most of all dont forget the buck act Title 4 sec 104-113 just using the U.S. mail or collecting it at your home you are saying or implying that you are a U.S. citizen, U.S. v. Austin G Cooper 89-109-CR-HOEVELER,USDC SO OF FLA. THE BEST BOOK THAT FUNNY MONEY CAN BUY!

[Ice]

Check out Chapter 1, Article 8, "Exemption from exceptional measures": here in regards to "Stateless Persons".



I believe that this is discussed in the book... don't take my word for it though... still suffering from "CRS". Maybe squirrel can give us a clue on that.



Ice

Ice,



squirrels (me) or squirrel (not me)? I can see this might get a little confusing in the future...



But if this is directed at me, I'm clueless. It is rather funny though how another contract exists to define and 'regulate' persons whom are not even a party to it.



-squirrels

[Ice]

squirrels,



Correction made. Please excuse the boo-boo.



Wouldn't a "Stateless Person" be a STRAWMAN that is not bound to any contracts with any government?



Ice

[Jerseee]

Seeker,



Your critical reading skills are improving, however I still sense that you would love to debate an issue that has not been proven yet. I could be wrong.



Dashboy,



Your opinion is your opinion until you have a rebuttal. I was just giving my thoughts on what maybe happening. You have every right to your statements but try to remember--when you live by the sword.......



All,



I still am at a loss as to why folks even want to use this method when there are laws that available that are uncontestable. This redemption process does work but it has so many holes that it can be challenged on different fronts. However, all my successes have come from using case law and codes and they can't argue with that nor can a judge ignore it.

[dashboy]

Jerseee you are certainly correct in your assessment of my statements and I wholeheartedly confess that I should have kept my mouth shut in regards to this matter. It was certainly none of my business to even make the statements I did! Not to make excuses but there are very few places in this world were truth can be found. This board is one of those places where truth dwells! No one wants to be mislead or blattenly lied to. When one starts to learn the truth, Non-Truth sticks out like a sore thumb for who have knowledge of truth! If they were truely arrested, then I pray the Lord will have mercy on them and bring them through this time of trouble unscathed!!



dashboy

[Jerseee]

Dashboy,



Not a problem...the truth will surface sooner or later and then you can have your day. I just didn't want to see you get slammed before the truth came out.



I totally understand your sentiment about all of this misleading information and processes in the redemption process. I too got fed up with this new tactic and that new method...geez!!!



Your patience will prove to be bitter sweet once the truth surfaces. Until then--don't shut your mouth just curb your tongue. hahahahahahahaaaa