Going to Jail for contempt

...someone may be in default?

[Freedomless]

Please explain. In the state of Missouri, Harry S. Truman's, the legal system is one of the most corrupt legal systems in the US. Think, is was a Missourian, who wrote the Patriot Acts. We really need some help here.

[Jerseee]

Freedomless,

Check your state's constitution bill of rights and you'll find that no one can be imprisoned for a debt.

Originally Posted by Freedomless

I have a friend who is going to jail for contempt. He was ordered to alimony to his ex-wife, who is not disabled, and has paid for 8 years and drained his IRAs to pay 2/3 of the alimony for the last 2 years. He filed a Modification of Maintenance in April of 2004. He actually went to an attorney in the spring of 2003 to see if he could file the Modification of Maintenance and was told that since it had been only three years since his divorce was final that he would have to wait. He lost his job, due to a down turn in the economy (Enron) and it took him 3 months to find a job at 2/3 of the salary that he was making. He presented all this in court, but the judge called him a liar and told him that he had to come up with the back alimony by next month or be held in contempt. I have worked with non-custodial parents groups since the late 1980's and have never seen anything like what this man has gone through. It took him 6 years to get a divorce, during which time his attorney died and the attorney had been paid around $20,000.00. The judge on that 6 year binge stated 3 different court appreances that he would rule in 30 days but never did. This man turned in judge into the review board, which ruled in favor of the judge. 30 days later the judge ruled on the case and allowed the ex-wife's attorney to write the judgment. The legal system took every asset from him and awarded all debts to him. He had to hire another attorney to appeal the case, because the judgement was for more than he earned. He has not been able to find an attorney that will try to get the case turned around. It really looks like he will go to jail next month. Also he was ordered by the judge to sign a "Voluntary Garnishment". He is self employed and refused to sign. That made the judge mad.

I know that there is a lot of this is going on the the family courts. Legislation for men in the family court is basically non-existent. The legislation is vague and open so the judge can do whatever he pleases. I produced a Missouri Bar News Letter from 1996, written by 2 attorneys, one from St. Louis and one from Chicago, who stated that the law clearly indicated that lifetime alimony was intended for disabled men or women. This man has paid child support and college for 3 children, who are all emancipated, and is still paying on the $80,000.00 dollars worth of charges that his ex ran up on credit cards. He will be paying for the college loan for 10 more years.

The judge told him to bad, so sad, you are a liar and will be held in contempt. This man has never even had a speeding ticket or any criminal recorded of any kind. It is hard to believe that the court system has come to be a den of thieves and liars.

[Jerseee]

Saber8,

Stop testifying and stop swearing in. have the writ of habeas corpus handy. This is what Kgod tells us.

Originally Posted by saber8

Just went through Helllllll with a process they're using now to get one into contempt. It's a DEBTORS EXAM. They threaten contempt charges even in the ORDER they serve you with. Then they turn on a court mike & have the atty for plaintiff grill you for 45 minutes on everything in your life...it's like a catch ALL drag net. Then they pick through the "testimony" you have given against yourself, YES, boys and girls even after you have invoked you 4th & 5th.....
The Bstrds stop at absolutely nothing..........
Anyone out there have the format or guideline for a good international claim for damages.......In the Admiralty ???
saber8

Just a thought,and going back to basics.
Since all Courts are corporations,THEY can only charge with contempt of
court ,those persons who are members of one,or anybody who is bounded
by contract.

If you are a man/woman challenge THEIR authority to contract with you,
against your will.
If a contract already exist,challenge the validity of that contract.

Some practical processes could be used,such as "Affidavit of corporate
denial",and/or "Writ of quo warranto".

And a practical advice,stay out of these Admiralty Courts.
Just by setting foot in there is viewed as an intent to contract.

Adrian

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All knowledge emerge from practice!

Originally Posted by adnnxu

Just a thought,and going back to basics.
Since all Courts are corporations,THEY can only charge with contempt of
court ,those persons who are members of one,or anybody who is bounded
by contract.

If you are a man/woman challenge THEIR authority to contract with you,
against your will.
If a contract already exist,challenge the validity of that contract.

Some practical processes could be used,such as "Affidavit of corporate
denial",and/or "Writ of quo warranto".

And a practical advice,stay out of these Admiralty Courts.
Just by setting foot in there is viewed as an intent to contract.

Adrian

_____________________________________________
All knowledge emerge from practice!

Adrian,

Good advice, and already addressed in my pleadings. This judge will have his hands full if he tries bringing forth statements that I am acting in contempt.

Thank you for the non-corporate reminder.

I have already put that in my pleadings.

HB

Hey hb,so far so good.Here is some strategy that worked on one of my
encounters with the Court:

When your name is called,stand up and say Hi.
Then fallow up with: This is John Doe,the man,and I am here today,on a
special appearance to challenge this Court jurisdiction over my body.

Whatever the judge will say,keep that in mind and follow up on your quest
to prove that you are not one of THEM.

You:you know judge that I am not a corporation,there is an Affidavit of
corporate denial in the file to prove that,and my question to you and this
Court is:
You:how did you people attach to my back?
The Court:whatever the judge is going to say,keep that in mind and follow up.

You:if you think that you have jurisdiction over me(my body),as subject matter jurisdiction and in personam jurisdiction,why don't you go ahead
and prove that,right now and right here.
Let's have a public debate,you the Corporate system and me the private man.

If I were in your shoes,tha's the way I would handle it.

One more thing to keep in mind:do not challenge the content of the contract,
challenge THEIR authority to contract with you,against your will.

And remember one more thing,when you step into that Court you have all
your natural rights with you.

Use them to your advantage!

I wish you well!
Adrian

[Freedomless]

Jersee, He is being told that he is going to jail on Good Friday, March 25, 2005, because he was held "In Contempt" for not obeying the judge's order to pay all back alimony, even though he proved that he lost his job Jan 1, 2003, due to Enron, and that the market has not recovered, and that he is earning 30% less gross than he was earning at the time of the decree.

The debtor prison is being bypassed by the failure to obey the judge's order. This order is not possible to obtain, so if he does not purge himself, pay the back debt, he will go to jail on Good Friday.

[Jerseee]

I understand the debtor prison scenario, but what does your state's constitution say? There are no more debtor's prisons (supposedly). That judge took an oath. Read the constitution carefully.

Also, look into void judgements. Richard cornforths material sounds pretty good right now. Furthermore, why not use a negotiable instrument to satisfy this alleged debt? Remember HJR 192. the judge cannot demand that your friend pay in dollars. Get with KGOD on this issue via private messaging.

Have that writ of habeas corpus ready. Get with KGOD!!!!

Originally Posted by Freedomless

Jersee, He is being told that he is going to jail on Good Friday, March 25, 2005, because he was held "In Contempt" for not obeying the judge's order to pay all back alimony, even though he proved that he lost his job Jan 1, 2003, due to Enron, and that the market has not recovered, and that he is earning 30% less gross than he was earning at the time of the decree.

The debtor prison is being bypassed by the failure to obey the judge's order. This order is not possible to obtain, so if he does not purge himself, pay the back debt, he will go to jail on Good Friday.