Attorney's lost in civil now filed a Private Criminal Compliant

I only seem to have my case numbers and I won by saying that they did not pay the money to the bank and cannot prove they did. They asked where the car was and I told them I do not know at this time for I had it taken away that I made a public post for help and asked for someone to take it so I could not be held for contempt of court. They asked who had it or who took it and I repeated I do not know and wanted to keep it that way. I told the judge I did not want them stealing my car. I answered all questions correctly and made a few mistakes like I could have taken advantage of a few instances and did not but considering I did pretty well. I told them I did not owe them any money and I also had a security agreement and gave them a copy of my UCC1 which was ignored and I also requested by filing to open and void judgment which was denied. This is all in the court of common pleas in PA Adams county and I have not been able to afford the transcripts. I realize that it is also important for me to have them however I only live off of 320.00 a month child support and cannot afford much of anything. No thanks to Workers Compensation and SS. all of which I am still trying to get. I also have been fighting to keep my home and have been in foreclosure for 19 months now so I have been rather active with that as well. These are all excuses yes I know but if you don't have money you just don't have it and if you cannot make it due to your ability or lack there of to work than you can't or I would be working. I appreciate your help folks and will keep on trucking and see what the next step is. I will be checking into all of what you have suggested. God Bless Bobbie

If their menace to separate your child from you feels strong and real, step back. Hope you won't need to. I'm praying for you. Eureka

Well, I spent the day at the court house looking up cases pertaining to what was filed against me. All I could find were emblezzlement charges so it doesn't seem to fit. I asked for a copy of what the attorney filed to get these charges against me and all he filed was AGAIN the faxed copy of the contract for the car and faxed copy of the certificate of title for the car. So, I am going to subpeona the orginial documents or certified copies of the orginial loan papers and the TITLE of the car which there is none he surely doesn't own it. It was all filed by the attorneys and not the bank as the papers state only the banks name. So there must be a law stating I have the right to face my accuser? I will have a file ready for a motion to dismiss. I will also call his office to get his bond number. I am also told by the judge (which I ran into) that I do have to get my fingerprints done before the hearing and that is just state law he said so I will look that up.

Kitchie I don't understand the fudicary debtor??

I also do not know who Jason is?? Whom got his title to his car.

Thanks everyone Bobbie

[KITCHIE]

OH forget about what I said about Fiduciary Debtor you have it much better than you think.

First, Attorney's cannot testify only their clients can. Attorney's can make declarations.
Second you don't have a contract with the attorney you had a "contract" with the "bank" and however you defended your case, you won times two.
Next demand the witness list from him. If he is not bringing any witnesses in he has no case. File your two wins in the court as your evidence. (It's seems to me the judge should admonish him for wasting the courts time with no new evidence, and the judge is going along with it. Guess he wants his cut!) When you do your motion to dismiss be sure to put your wins in and how the judge ruled and put the judge on "Judicial Notice" that he is going down if he doesn't do the right thing. Throw in some judicial cannons about how judges are supposed to up hold the integrety of the court etc. Make him notice the court rules and find the statutes for frivolous lawsuits.

You seem pretty on top of this...don't let their little game throw you off. You have plenty of ammo to go with. Go to success thread Reno Ticket and look at my notice and demand for discovery and check out the parts that tell the judge he better do the right thing. Use that in you motion to dismiss.

I think they are just harrassing you. Or did the judge indicate that he was going to rule differently? doesn't matter what he wants to do... use that stuff in my notice and demand and he will cave.

Kitchie

[Anubis]

Don't forget the judges oath make sure to get a copy and file it several days before your court date, also go back and read the post I wrote about the bond. The oath and bond are public information at the secreatary of states
office. Remember the lawyer has the same information at the s.o.s. use this information to ensure there are no underhanded dealings by the judge and attorney who belong to the same club(no pun intended, the b.a.r.). I would
also disregard the judges personal advice about fingerprints, this seems to be and attempt to dig into your background. Be diligent!


Peace Anubis

Do I really want the witness list as this may alert him to me wising up to that part of it. If he doesn't think I know than he may try to do this himself and I willl have him hands down??

Originally Posted by Anubis

Don't forget the judges oath make sure to get a copy and file it several days before your court date, also go back and read the post I wrote about the bond. The oath and bond are public information at the secreatary of states
office. Remember the lawyer has the same information at the s.o.s. use this information to ensure there are no underhanded dealings by the judge and attorney who belong to the same club(no pun intended, the b.a.r.). I would
also disregard the judges personal advice about fingerprints, this seems to be and attempt to dig into your background. Be diligent!


Peace Anubis

Anubis I understand your idea and what you are going for but it seems they are quite wise to the oath issue and have laughed anyone in PA out of court with it. Some of the best I know in courts cannot get that one to work. I don't care about the fingerprinting as much as I did before since I don't have any negs. in my backround for anything. No judge in PA has his oath on file nor do the lawyers at least not the proper oath and that is what some were fighting and it seems to be one aspect we have let drop in this area they always ignore and throw it out. "Constitutional oath I mean" But I do agree to have it and add it in there anyway and the bond information. It may make them think twice before making a mistake.
Thanks Folks very much!!!!!!!!!

[KITCHIE]

OHHHHH yes!! You do want to let them know you are on to them!! When you get that witness list you are letting them know they are messing with the wrong person and you are going for their BAR bond!! And in your docs be sure to ask for all resonable court costs and fees. I am assuming that in the first two cases you just wanted them to go away and give you your property. Please forgive my assuming.

If they do not have the PROPER Oath of Office then the entire courtroom full of ACTORS is a fraud. You make sure they know you know!!! That's what scares them your knowledge. Don't worry about them laughing at you they try that with everybody! All it does is make them more stupid than they already are.

By the way I didn't mean to push my docs that I used in the Reno Ticket case, I just was trying to let you know there is some good stuff there especially about the judges responsibility. Check out what is written about the Oath and treason in there.

I am in your corner and so are the rest of us. And I am really excited that you won twice! on the same case.

Kitchie

Originally Posted by KITCHIE

OHHHHH yes!! You do want to let them know you are on to them!! When you get that witness list you are letting them know they are messing with the wrong person and you are going for their BAR bond!! And in your docs be sure to ask for all resonable court costs and fees. I am assuming that in the first two cases you just wanted them to go away and give you your property. Please forgive my assuming.

If they do not have the PROPER Oath of Office then the entire courtroom full of ACTORS is a fraud. You make sure they know you know!!! That's what scares them your knowledge. Don't worry about them laughing at you they try that with everybody! All it does is make them more stupid than they already are.

By the way I didn't mean to push my docs that I used in the Reno Ticket case, I just was trying to let you know there is some good stuff there especially about the judges responsibility. Check out what is written about the Oath and treason in there.

I am in your corner and so are the rest of us. And I am really excited that you won twice! on the same case.

Kitchie

I concur WHOLEHEARTEDLY!

The more you show up at the Clerks office, or send mail to the adversary, the more they will worry.

The only thing you have at your disposal is tenacity and demanding your rights.

Give no thought how it looks. Only give thought to your options: (1) Act of of fear, or (2) Act in pursuit of the truth.

I firmly believe that I could go to 80% of any court case files and find something to raise the black flag over.

It's what Ice calls "Critical Reading."

HB

10 to 1 odds, that this shyster had bought the note from the bank and that is why he/she is taking this personal?

It would be a wash (loss) for the shyster because of the two civil loss(s).

The shyster bought the note and can't redeem/recover "for profit."

Side note: Maybe that is why these banksters don't show up in these court hearings?

Also... if this is an alleged criminal action, I personally would focus on the "bonding" for the action. And, because we all know that this is really a commercial action, I would do the research and locate the underwriter for the bond?

Get names!