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Old 04-15-2004, 08:38 PM
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Then he ain't a judge!


<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Just passing the following article along, not sure of the source:</SPAN>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Judges must:</SPAN>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in"><SPAN>·<SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 7pt; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman; FONT-VARIANT: normal">& </SPAN>have to be appointed or elected</SPAN>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in"><SPAN>·<SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 7pt; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman; FONT-VARIANT: normal">& </SPAN>have to be sworn in in a swearing in ceremony</SPAN>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Judges must also:</SPAN>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in"><SPAN>·<SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 7pt; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman; FONT-VARIANT: normal">& </SPAN>take an Oath to uphold the Constitution(s) </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Suppose the guy says "no... I won't uphold the constitution(s)"? Then he ain't a judge!</SPAN>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in"><SPAN>·<SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 7pt; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman; FONT-VARIANT: normal">& </SPAN>utter the specific words required by those Constitutions</SPAN>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in"><SPAN>·<SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 7pt; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman; FONT-VARIANT: normal">& </SPAN>sign an oath&bearing those specific words</SPAN>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in"><SPAN>·<SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 7pt; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman; FONT-VARIANT: normal">& </SPAN>be able to <U>prove</U> he took the oath </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">just in case anyone questions it later</SPAN>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in"><SPAN>·<SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 7pt; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman; FONT-VARIANT: normal">& </SPAN>be able to provide legal evidence he actually is a judge</SPAN>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in"><SPAN>·<SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 7pt; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman; FONT-VARIANT: normal">& </SPAN>file that Oath bearing his signature </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">with the official Keeper of the Record... the County Clerk.</SPAN>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The one who administered the Oath must file an affidavit</SPAN>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">signed under pain an penalty of perjury </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">with the same Keeper of the Record. </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">And the <U>law requires</U> it in a certain time period. </SPAN><SPAN>If it ain't all done, and done on time, he ain't a judge.</SPAN>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">He must take that Oath of Office and</SPAN>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in"><SPAN>·<SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 7pt; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman; FONT-VARIANT: normal">& </SPAN>must place hand upon a book.</SPAN>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in"><SPAN>·<SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 7pt; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman; FONT-VARIANT: normal">& </SPAN>utters the required words </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">(And that book ain't Humpty Dumpty.)</SPAN>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in"><SPAN>·<SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 7pt; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman; FONT-VARIANT: normal">& </SPAN>That book is the 2000 year old Evidence of the Law.</SPAN>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in"><SPAN>·<SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 7pt; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman; FONT-VARIANT: normal">& </SPAN>There is a reason for it.</SPAN>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in"><SPAN>·<SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 7pt; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman; FONT-VARIANT: normal">& </SPAN>That Evidence of the Law</SPAN>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-INDENT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">was given to us </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">by the original Giver of the Law.</SPAN>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in"><SPAN>·<SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 7pt; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman; FONT-VARIANT: normal">& </SPAN>That Oath of Office means he will </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">uphold the Law upon which he has his hand </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">as well as the Law of the Land.</SPAN>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">But NYJAIL4Judges would like to expand upon those thoughts.& In coffee shop conversations with neighbors about the Oath of Office, there are those who said, "so what, if it ain't on file and you find out... then they will just file it and do it right".& Wait a minute.& If you are going down the road in your car and the cop pulls you over for going through a stop sign, do you tell him to let you go so you can&back up and do it again so you may do it right this time?& There just ain't any going back.</SPAN>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">What happens when that cop asks you who you are and you answer "John Smith"?& If he just accepted that and wrote you a ticket, we would all be John Smith for a moment.& You tell that cop you are John Smith and you better be prepared to prove it right there on the spot, or you will be looking at criminal impersonation charges.&
What's good for the goose is good for the gander.& Don't you think someone who tells you they are a judge ought to be prepared to prove it right there on the spot... before you go any further?</SPAN>

<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">What happens if they can't prove they are a judge... and are just an impostor because they haven't met all the requirements of law to become a judge?& A still better question is: What happens if they weren't a judge when they fined you, or ordered your child to be seized, or sentenced you to jail?</SPAN>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">You have to look upon the Oath of Office as a most serious thing... and living up to that Oath, as well.& We hear stories every week about someone whose rights were violated by a presumed-to-be judge.</SPAN>
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Old 04-15-2004, 09:04 PM
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Re:Then he ain't a judge!



Another cool idea.


Me, standing before the judge.


"Yes, your honor. May I see your driver's license and oath of office, please?"


Oh, that would be so much fun!& But when you think about--really think about it--there's absolutely no reason NOT to.


Go to a doctor? There's his "official certificate" to practice medicine. Lawyers? Hanging on the wall. (Not the lawyer, but his license. SHOULD be the lawyer....)


Judge? Sits there and we have NO clue if he is who he says.


Hell, yes. I like this stuff!


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Old 04-15-2004, 09:39 PM
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Yep - we are expected to show ID just to use a credit card, "drive" down the road, travel by air, etc.


So, shouldn't we be demanding verification of identification from somebody who claims to have the authority to take our house, kids, or put us behind bars?


Think on that,
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Old 04-15-2004, 11:22 PM
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Yep - we are expected to show ID just to use a credit card, "drive" down the road, travel by air, etc.


So, shouldn't we be demanding verification of identification from somebody who claims to have the authority to take our house, kids, or put us behind bars?


Think on that,
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I will ask next time I go to court
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I do not doubt you for a second Paul!

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Is simply asking in court for the "manditory judicial notice of thier oath of office" enough?

If we want to see the paper trail does the county clerk have all those records?

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Yes, the County Clerk does have it.& In Harris county where I'm at, I was about to nail a judge for have a bond on file with the County Commissioner's office, but no oath attached to the bond.& So I was ready to lay it on her, but low and behold we find the oath on file with clerk of court's office on microfilm.& Well the way the statutes read, if the bond and oath are under the same roof, then they are filed together as required.


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If we want to see the paper trail does the county clerk have all those records?

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Thanks flecompte

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