Penhallow vs Doanes Ad. and states as corporations

i read the download mentioned supra and cannot find the point that was supposed to be made. states are corporations. someone please point out our misunderstanding of this case law.

[TheBlackTruth]

<font color=darkblue face="verdana">Weis, in another thread posted:



"Inasmuch as every government is an artificial person, an abstraction, and a creature of the mind only, a government can interface only with other artificial persons. The imaginary, having neither actuality nor substance, is foreclosed from creating and attaining parity with the tangible. The legal manifestation of this is that no government, as well as any law, agency, aspect, court, etc. can concern itself with anything other than corporate, artificial persons and the contracts between them."



It was unclear if he was quoting the real cite or the bogus cite though.



So to tie in to your thesis, I take it we are working with the presumption that by "state" you mean "state government" and as such, the quote above seems to pretty much sum it up.



-BT[/color]

[weishaupt1776]

[color=black][b]Keep in mind the above quote is a bogus cite. For more detail click HERE

[TheBlackTruth]

<font color=darkblue face=verdana>Oh, ok.



It wasn't clear if you were posting the bad cite or the good one in your post on the other thread, weis.



However, perhaps it would be good to post the real Penhallow v. Doane's case on this thread (or a link to it) so we can study it.



-BT[/color]

[weishaupt1776]

[color=black][b]On the link to the thread I provided, I explained TWICE that those cites were false. Akira posted the 'rijnals in the downloads. Read the thread again- He explains where he posted it.

Best Regards

[TheBlackTruth]

<font color=darkblue face=verdana>Your heading to your reprint of the site was as follows:

"The following are REAL CASES with BOGUS CITES:"

However, you didn't indicate if you were printing the correction to the cite or simply reprinting what was bogus. Further, you DID not make any references after that post as to which the case may be. It may be a good idea to never post a bogus quote again once its discovered to be bogus.



-BT[/color]

[weishaupt1776]

[color=black][b]And after both of the cites I put<BLOCKQUOTE>"REMEMBER THAT THE ABOVE QUOTES ARE FABRICATED BY AGENT PROVOCATEURS!"</blockquote>My apologies if that wasn't clear enough---I'll re-read your post & take what you said into consideration.

[TheBlackTruth]

<font color=darkblue face=verdana>Well, yes. I get it now (per the post before your last), I just somehow (maybe in wishful thinking) thought that perhaps you posted the real one while making reference to the fakes that had been circulated.



I'm reading the real case right now. Tis quite interesting, but i don't really see it leading to a thesis even remotely resembling the bogus cite quote.



-BT[/color]

ok, but where is the misquotes in that download? whats the point being made?

[weishaupt1776]

Originally Posted by TheBlackTruth

. . .but i don't really see it leading to a thesis even remotely resembling the bogus cite quote.

<FONT COLOR=BLACK>[b]For clarification purposes, the following is a real case & a real cite from which agent provacateurs doctored it & posted it as being in the Penhallow):

I used the phrase "creature of the mind" & found this case ONLY:

<center>Rundle v. Del. & Raritan Canal Co 55 U.S. 80; 14 L. Ed. 335; 1852</center><BLOCKQUOTE>"This must mean the natural physical beings composing those separate communities, and can, by no violence of interpretation, be made to signify artificial, incorporeal, theoretical, and invisible creations. A corporation, therefore, being not a natural person, but a mere creature of the mind, invisible and intangible, cannot be a citizen of a State, or of the United States, and cannot fall within the terms or the power of the above-mentioned article, and can therefore neither plead nor be impleaded in the courts of the United States"</BLOCKQUOTE>



Kgodd, the penhallow in the downloads is the real case with the real language. the cite in the bogus cites thread is exactly that a bogus cite.

This is the cite that is being circulated AS being in Penhallow when in fact it is not. Repeat this following cite is not in the Penhallow case that is in the downloads section. THE PENHALLOW CASE IN THE DOWNLOADS SECTION IS THE REAL CASE & <U>DOES NOT</U> CONTAIN THIS CITE BECAUSE THE FOLLOWING CITE IS A FABRICATION:<BLockquote>"Inasmuch as every government is an artificial person, an abstraction, and a creature of the mind only, a government can interface only with other artificial persons. The imaginary, having neither actuality nor substance, is foreclosed from creating and attaining parity with the tangible. The legal manifestation of this is that no government, as well as any law, agency, aspect, court, etc. can concern itself with anything other than corporate, artificial persons and the contracts between them."</blockquote>This above cite is false & has never been cited by any court case & is a fabrication, a "creature of the mind"



Guys, we need to kill this thread , major.