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[rottweiler]

I was wrong. Jurisdiction can be brought up at anytime so your affidavit still stands. Proceed to trial.

Originally Posted by rottweiler

This is what your wife should of said:
Your Honor, you are asking me how I plead when the District Attorney failed to answer my Affidavit of Truth citing for one thing the U.S. Supreme court case of Yick Wo v. Hopkins which firmly states that I am a sovereign not subject to the laws passed by the legislature? The law holds that when the District Attorney failed to answer my claim that I was a sovereign not subject to the law, then he is in legal default and must accept my claim as being true. So, Your Honor, the District Attorney has no legal grounds to prosecute me, since he by legal default has to accept my claim as true. The District Attorney having lost all grounds to prosecute me leaves this court with no legal choice, but to dismiss my case.

(That came from the TS website testimonial of Steve from Atlanta, Ga.)

When you accept the judges offer to plea you contracted back into his jurisdiction and you are nullifying your default. You need to contact the Ticket Slayer because you need to start the process all over again.

Does anyone agree with what I'm saying?

[rottweiler]

Originally Posted by rottweiler
This is what your wife should of said:
Your Honor, you are asking me how I plead when the District Attorney failed to answer my Affidavit of Truth citing for one thing the U.S. Supreme court case of Yick Wo v. Hopkins which firmly states that I am a sovereign not subject to the laws passed by the legislature? The law holds that when the District Attorney failed to answer my claim that I was a sovereign not subject to the law, then he is in legal default and must accept my claim as being true. So, Your Honor, the District Attorney has no legal grounds to prosecute me, since he by legal default has to accept my claim as true. The District Attorney having lost all grounds to prosecute me leaves this court with no legal choice, but to dismiss my case.

(That came from the TS website testimonial of Steve from Atlanta, Ga.)

When you accept the judges offer to plea you contracted back into his jurisdiction and you are nullifying your default. You need to contact the Ticket Slayer because you need to start the process all over again.

Does anyone agree with what I'm saying?

I was wrong. You do not start over. Jurisdiction can be brought up at anytime so your affidavit still stands. Proceed to trial.

Originally Posted by Judge Roy Bean

And the judge would ask again, "Are you pleading guilty or not guilty?"

You apparently think the courts have never seen this stuff before.

Are you saying he has to plead before he can challenge jurisdiction?
I am aware that there are two prosecutors in the room and they are not concerned with honor in a pretrial but the trial might turn out different.
JRB, do you think the Ticket Slayer is a liar, that they is only a very slim chance of winning?

[Livefire]

and I would say to that.........Objection! Irrelavent to the proceeding! I am motioning to dismiss for lack of persecution (slip intentional). Do your ministerial duty and act upon the writ of mandamus before you, judge otherwise allow a higher court of competent jurisdiction to rule.

JRB, no plea is necessary because the prosecutor is in default and has no standing before the court. We did the TS procedure here in MI and the prosecutor didnt bother to show for the hearing! Besides here in MI, one can attach the House Finance committee report to the Motion To Dismiss clearly revealing that the MI judiciary retirement fund and police are enriched by the fines...creating a conflict of interest on the part of the judge. Let them rule against me and I send the judge a true bill and lien the municipal bond covering their sorry backsides! Nothing Risk Management can do about something like that! Judicial misconduct trumps any 'immunity' (default takes away jurisdiction....no jurisdiction, no immunity)

[weishaupt1776]

Originally Posted by rottweiler

Originally Posted by rottweiler
This is what your wife should of said:
Your Honor, you are asking me how I plead when the District Attorney failed to answer my Affidavit of Truth citing for one thing the U.S. Supreme court case of Yick Wo v. Hopkins which firmly states that I am a sovereign not subject to the laws passed by the legislature? The law holds that when the District Attorney failed to answer my claim that I was a sovereign not subject to the law, then he is in legal default and must accept my claim as being true. So, Your Honor, the District Attorney has no legal grounds to prosecute me, since he by legal default has to accept my claim as true. The District Attorney having lost all grounds to prosecute me leaves this court with no legal choice, but to dismiss my case.

The issue is not that he defaulted, the issue is the ruling on the mandamus. Period.

[Judge Roy Bean]

Originally Posted by Livefire

and I would say to that.........Objection! Irrelavent to the proceeding! I am motioning to dismiss for lack of persecution (slip intentional). Do your ministerial duty and act upon the writ of mandamus before you, judge otherwise allow a higher court of competent jurisdiction to rule.

And you'd be overruled and asked once again, are you pleading guilty or not guilty in the matter before the court?

Originally Posted by Livefire

JRB, no plea is necessary because the prosecutor is in default and has no standing before the court.

Bovine Scatology.

Originally Posted by Livefire

We did the TS procedure here in MI and the prosecutor didnt bother to show for the hearing! Besides here in MI, one can attach the House Finance committee report to the Motion To Dismiss clearly revealing that the MI judiciary retirement fund and police are enriched by the fines...creating a conflict of interest on the part of the judge.

Sure. I bet they even stopped giving traffic tickets in MI in fear of your courtroom accumen.

Originally Posted by Livefire

Let them rule against me and I send the judge a true bill and lien the municipal bond covering their sorry backsides! Nothing Risk Management can do about something like that! Judicial misconduct trumps any 'immunity' (default takes away jurisdiction....no jurisdiction, no immunity)

I'm sure the entire judiciary of Michigan is huddling in fear and confusion.

[iscovedel]

Originally Posted by weishaupt1776

JRB, if you were behind the bench, we'd rip your balls off, feed 'em to the bailiffs, then mop the blood off the courtroom floor w/ your wig

BTW, this is pretty graphic, not to sound fainthearted or anything, blood doesn't bother me but, I mean, c'mon, that's just cruelly and unusually graphic and unnecessary IMO., but that's just me... (I know it relates to the whole "self vasectomy" analogy, but no need to stoop, youknow?) tsk tsk (lol)

Moving on: I'm also applying the TS method here, but already entered a plea, not knowing and not having any support from the TS ppl as to what to do...so, I plead not guilty and planned on serving the papers etc before the "court" date...am I to understand that now I've fouled this up somehow and need to take extra steps? I could use some advice from anyone on this side of the debate that has experience...

[iamfreeru2]

Originally Posted by iscovedel

BTW, this is pretty graphic, not to sound fainthearted or anything, blood doesn't bother me but, I mean, c'mon, that's just cruelly and unusually graphic and unnecessary IMO., but that's just me... (I know it relates to the whole "self vasectomy" analogy, but no need to stoop, youknow?) tsk tsk (lol)

Moving on: I'm also applying the TS method here, but already entered a plea, not knowing and not having any support from the TS ppl as to what to do...so, I plead not guilty and planned on serving the papers etc before the "court" date...am I to understand that now I've fouled this up somehow and need to take extra steps? I could use some advice from anyone on this side of the debate that has experience...

In MO and I am not in TS, you became the defendant when you plead. I believe this is a no no as you are sovereign and cannot be the defendant and be sovereign at the same time. I am sure others will chime in on this that know allot more about TS than I. Since I do not get tickets there is no need for TS. I believe you may have to start the process again and may want to contact TS for assistance.

[Akira]

Pardon my bluntness, but...

Several of you are making the same mistake...

You acknowledge your own ignorance enough to recognise the need to ask for advice. Once that advice is given, you suddenly become way smarter than the source of the advice, and, instead of following the source's suggestions, you choose instead, to alter the advice as you see fit, or ignore it altogether. Then, when you fail, you come back looking for more advice...

Stop shooting yourselves in the foot !

If you can't defend your documents--then they are worthless.

By submitting the docs, you're challenging subject matter jurisdiction, and the judge's authority to render a decision...

Then you walk into court, expecting the judge to make a decision, on whether he's qualified to make a decision ?!?!?!

"Judge ! My docs challenge your authority !!! Do you mind if I do that?"

Hello??? Holy Aquiesence Batman....

He then proceeded to explain to us that the TS docs did not apply to his Statutory court. TS docs are law docs they don't apply to statute courts. I just smiled a looked at him.

The judge is right ! US citizens do not have access to common law ! He PRESUMES you are a US citizen, under his jursidiction, and is right, because you didn't challenge SMJ from the get go (like your docs do). Your "smile" is NOT a sufficient rebuttal... therefore your papers do not stand.

JRB's observations posted above are all correct, too, because you failed to verbally back up your docs !


IT"S A TWO FISTED APPROACH !

The docs are not boiler plate, and neither is my opening dialog... but TOGETHER, they're as close as you're going to get.

The opening dialog should be the first words out of your mouth, when "YOUR NAME" is called.

Here's the opening dialog :

For the record !!

Greetings in the name of my Sovereign Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ.

My Christian appelation is Xxxxxxxx Xxxxxxxx, and my family name is Xxxxxxx.

That is spelled in upper AND lower case letters.

I sojourn in Christ upon the soil within the geographical boundaries of my Lord's Christian Republic ... the Maine state!!!

I have responded to this petition, ONLY because it attempts to create a colorable persona, under colorable law, by the name of XXXXXXXX X. XXXXXXX, spelled in ALL capital letters, the artifice being used here, to deceive this Honorable Court, must be abated, as a Public Nuisance.

For the record, Xxxxxxxx Xxxxxxxx, and Jesus the Christ, Advocate and Wonderful Counselor, are using the Right of Special Visitation, to exercise Ministerial Powers, to be heard on this matter.

I, Xxxxxxxx Xxxxxxxx, am a native Mainer, and a Man on the Land, in the County of Xxxxxxxxxxxx.

I am not a resident, in the District of Maine, nor any other Federal Judicial District, nor am I a corporate or legal entity, or any other fictional entity, created by Congress

I am only a flesh and blood man created by God All Mighty !!

My Colors and Authority is the Maine Flag of Peace with a single pine tree, in the center of a yellow field, and a blue polar star in the upper left corner.

My Law is his holy writ, My Family Bible, and....

My Status is shown by the Seal of the People.

I reserve ALL my rights.

With all due respect.....

I do not consent to these proceedings, nor am I here to conduct business.

I respectfully decline, without exception, any and all offers to contract, with anyone, here today.

Under no circumstances should my utterances be interpreted as testimony, nor do I, in any way, shape, manner or form, aquiese to your authority, as....

I do not recognise you, sir... or your authority. I have but one Master, the All Mighty God.

I am, who I say I am, not who the District Attorney says I am.

I have in my hand, an unrebutted affidavit, which was defaulted on by the District Attorney, denying the court any standing in this matter, whatsoever.

Sir, with all due respect, the court has no choice but to dismiss.

The only decision before the court today is whether the court will act on my Writ of Mandamus, or leave that to a higher court.

I stand on my documents as presented.

Further affiant sayeth naught.and I stand mute.

(just replace "Maine state" with the proper dejure name for your state, and do a net search for a common law flag for your state, before everything went statuatory (1860), to replace the description of Maine's flag)


Read this NOW and any/all other ticket slayer threads.

Do an advanced search for "slayer" and "TS"

Now go do your homework...

For HIS Glory,
Akira

[iamfreeru2]

Akira knows what he is talking about. I would listen to what he is telling you. I would also listen to what the good judge is saying as well. He is telling you in, a round about way, you are doing it wrong. Akira has gone through this and knows the road to success. As he has said check out other threads regarding TS and do your homework.

[Judge Roy Bean]

Originally Posted by Akira

Pardon my bluntness, but...

Here's the opening dialog :

The defendand is admonished that the court does not need his consent for these procedings, and the court enters a plea of not-guilty on behalf of the now-mute defendant and sets a trial date for __________.

Bang.

Next case?

Hint: The above approach would also be particularly annoying if the judge didn't share your Christian faith. Just what you want to do. Piss off the judge. The only person in the courtroom that could render a judgment in your favor.