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Old 08-06-2005, 06:42 PM
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bonding out of jail with no $$$

Have been scouring the site and haven't been able to find anything that seems to fit this situation. I have run out of options to get my fiance bonded out of jail as there is no $$ source. I am asking that anyone with any ideas as to how we can go about this to help me.....we are expecting our #1 child anyday now and have been told that he won't even go to trial for 60-90 days.

Judge told us a week ago that he couldn't do anything about lowering the bond.....his furlough request was denied.....we have a public defender but they are so far behind that this child will probably be 6 mo. old before fiance comes home.......

The twist on the whole story is that my x has his fingers in the middle of all of this....he is a dirty cop......
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Old 08-06-2005, 11:05 PM
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Hoping4freedom, welcome to the forum. Check the members download section under UCC. You might find sort of things relate to your situation.
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Old 08-07-2005, 03:55 AM
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Prison Bonding

Greetings hoping4freedom,

Do a search, both on this site and on the net, using the words "prison bonding", "Jack Smith" and/or "Gene Keating". I had a site, but it doesn't seem to be working at this time. And, keep in mind that you are not alone since NO ONE HAS ANY MONEY, there IS NO MONEY, PERIOD. Therefore a bond should suffice because a bond is debt, and that is what the whole secular *ewish system operates on ... is a promise of DEBT!!! That is a short explanation of how the procedure works.

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Old 08-07-2005, 06:12 AM
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Greetings hoping4freedom,

Do a search, both on this site and on the net, using the words "prison bonding", "Jack Smith" and/or "Gene Keating". I had a site, but it doesn't seem to be working at this time. And, keep in mind that you are not alone since NO ONE HAS ANY MONEY, there IS NO MONEY, PERIOD. Therefore a bond should suffice because a bond is debt, and that is what the whole secular *ewish system operates on ... is a promise of DEBT!!! That is a short explanation of how the procedure works.

Sincerely,
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Hoping4freedom, doing a search for "Gene" Keating will likely not bring any results. His name is Jean Keating and he hates it when people do not spell it correctly. I would probably have spelled it Gene myself if I did not know better. PM me with your email and I will send you his prison treatise of over 150 pages.
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Old 08-07-2005, 07:50 AM
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According to Truth; in pure theory and high idealism, one can simply write a letter of credit for a million dollars and publish it through the county clerk. Then you would bond your husband out with a Public Office Money Certificate drawn against that letter of credit.

Agreed.

I have been in the booking area and drafted against my letter of credit. I think they just threw it out. Even though I insisted it go into the paperwork.

However one time in a different situation, some kind of rent on work release from jail, they honored the certificates and waived the $35/week fees I was supposed to pay. Getting people to trace the letter to the Treasury by comptroller warrant or some other adjustment is the problem. The Freeman of Montana were finishing the process and people were getting the adjustments in FRNs but the feds put a stop to that. Governor Gilpin's drafts were successful. See the image at the bottom of the page: http://forum.suijuris.net/showthread...4060#post34060

Finally I set up an account with the City of Colorado Springs and they cried "forgery". Apparently because the Certificates were approximately the size of checks. When the investigator inquired for my agreement these things looked like "valid" checks I informed him that any informed cashier would immediately see there was no bank or account number. Only the reference number on the letter of credit. There went the forgery charges - no intent.

It is nearly impossible to abate for misnomer from inside the jail. Especially if your husband is suffering the dichotomy of pseudonomania. [He does not know his true name from the pledged legal name - debt action in assumpsit.] Sadly your problem is that you cannot scrape up the money to bond him out.

In avoidance one should get out of the concrete box first. Do not expect to get the bail back. That would have to be done after review of the attorney in the black robe appointed "judge" over the matter. He can only see the legal entity, not your husband the man. Read Legal Identity; The Coming of Age of Public Law by Joseph Vining.

So the abatements are effective if you bond your husband out and are willing to forfeit bond money and impounded cars (no plates) etc. But you have a cause against you driven by corruption (ex-husband/dirty cop). So do not expect an abatement to hold. They will create jurisdiction.

In summary, albeit I have seen remedy applied correctly cure for other instances, I do not think my experience can be much help. I could draft remedy in the U.S. district court but the state feels competent even in spite of the Governors' Conference in 1933 and the Libel of Review is best kept a training tool to control contracts in your household in the future. It is not very effective against such a mess as you describe. I am sorry.

But there may be hope in motion to dismiss for lack of subject matter jurisdiction. Thing is your husband has to just leave the courtroom, coveralls and handcuffs, the moment the judge admits he has no subject matter jurisdiction. One more word from your husband and he is curing jurisdiction again through accepting benefit of discussion. The attorney in the black robe begins charging for the courtroom time. The Authority of Law by Charles Weisman is a good treatise on this procedure.

Suijuris is an amazing collection of talent. So listen carefully to the others. Maybe something effective will surface.


Regards,

David Merrill.

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Old 08-07-2005, 12:14 PM
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unlawful money

would the general idea of the unlawful money doc in the downloads serve to help out in this situation?
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Old 08-07-2005, 01:36 PM
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Bonding

In regards to the bonding question: Isn't it thre when one bonds out of jail, they are agreeing to give jurisdiction?

I am looking through my files to locate a source and will try to return soon.

Anyone been in jail and read back of the bond?
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Old 08-07-2005, 02:08 PM
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From what I have learned here, I would have to say that yes, he would be giving jurisdiction to them. Think about it, if they didn't have jurisdiction, he wouldn't have to bond out. Now, the more seasoned men and women might be able to come up with how he could turn it around, after the fact. Again, you are agreeing to appear when you bond out. Now that I think about it, bonding is a plea bargin, for those who do not belong there in the first place.
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Old 08-07-2005, 02:28 PM
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Go to court forum, then find the thread UPDATE:slick cops, bad - - COURT WORSE! HELP! On the second page you will find what I posted about posting a PR Bond. I don't know if it will work for someone all ready in jail, but who knows with this system. Good luck.
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Old 08-07-2005, 02:36 PM
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Bonding out

Also, you give jurisdiction when you take an attorney! Still looking for info on another site with boniding info. It has changed and I'm looking for new site.
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