Jurisdiction

#1 10-03-2003, 09:57 PM

Well, Ice has been twisting my arm to post something so here goes. What? You asked, â€œWho is Jim?â€ For one, an x university prof. Read, â€œI will fill the table to the best of my ability but NOT spoon feed you. It is up to you to shovel it into your own mouthâ€¦.or starve! And, I will test you.â€
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Because Ice has twisted my arm, he is assuming he has BOTH subject matter and personal jurisdiction to twist my arm. Ice, I challenge your jurisdiction.
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So rule 1: He who claims jurisdiction must prove it. This comes from the maxim â€œHe who affirms provesâ€. (Negative averments come to mind?)
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Jurisdiction: 1. The word is a term of large and comprehensive import, and embraces every kind of judicial action. 2. It is the authority by which courts and judicial officers take cognizance of and decide cases. 3. The legal right by which judges exercise their authority. 4. It is the authority, capacity, power or right to act. (Blacks forth) Catch that very last word.<o

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Jurisdiction MUST consist of two parts: over the person and over the subject matter at hand.
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All you need to do is challenge jurisdiction then the Society Of Birdwatchers must prove they have it. The rub is how will you know when the so-called proof real proof. If the say, â€œI have it.â€ And you say, â€œOK.â€ You have granted them jurisdiction.
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STOP!!! Right here. Right now. Read article III. Read it again. What? You say you donâ€™t have the constitution? Well what are you doing here? Go to a games site or something.
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TEST: Where does the Supreme Court get its jurisdiction?
Who does the Supreme Court have jurisdiction over?
What subjects does the Supreme Court have jurisdiction over?
I will rephrase the first question. What activates the Supreme Court?
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Now, ignoring for a while those â€œlesser courtsâ€ that congress may set up.
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What activates the courts? Here I am speaking of state, county and such.
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Hint: Try this first. What activates your car? Yah letâ€™s beat up on the car for a while and then see if we can â€œdriveâ€ it to the courts. Mind you I will be tough. Of course you can go to the game sites. Theyâ€™re easy.
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#2 10-03-2003, 09:57 PM

Well, Ice has been twisting my arm to post something so here goes. What? You asked, â€œWho is Jim?â€ For one, an x university prof. Read, â€œI will fill the table to the best of my ability but NOT spoon feed you. It is up to you to shovel it into your own mouthâ€¦.or starve! And, I will test you.â€
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Because Ice has twisted my arm, he is assuming he has BOTH subject matter and personal jurisdiction to twist my arm. Ice, I challenge your jurisdiction.
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So rule 1: He who claims jurisdiction must prove it. This comes from the maxim â€œHe who affirms provesâ€. (Negative averments come to mind?)
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Jurisdiction: 1. The word is a term of large and comprehensive import, and embraces every kind of judicial action. 2. It is the authority by which courts and judicial officers take cognizance of and decide cases. 3. The legal right by which judges exercise their authority. 4. It is the authority, capacity, power or right to act. (Blacks forth) Catch that very last word.<o

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Jurisdiction MUST consist of two parts: over the person and over the subject matter at hand.
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All you need to do is challenge jurisdiction then the Society Of Birdwatchers must prove they have it. The rub is how will you know when the so-called proof real proof. If the say, â€œI have it.â€ And you say, â€œOK.â€ You have granted them jurisdiction.
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STOP!!! Right here. Right now. Read article III. Read it again. What? You say you donâ€™t have the constitution? Well what are you doing here? Go to a games site or something.
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TEST: Where does the Supreme Court get its jurisdiction?
Who does the Supreme Court have jurisdiction over?
What subjects does the Supreme Court have jurisdiction over?
I will rephrase the first question. What activates the Supreme Court?
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Now, ignoring for a while those â€œlesser courtsâ€ that congress may set up.
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What activates the courts? Here I am speaking of state, county and such.
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Hint: Try this first. What activates your car? Yah letâ€™s beat up on the car for a while and then see if we can â€œdriveâ€ it to the courts. Mind you I will be tough. Of course you can go to the game sites. Theyâ€™re easy.
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Ice · #3 10-04-2003, 10:27 AM

About time you joined the party.

By the way, thanks for giving me jurisdiction.

Note:& You posted, therefore you agreed, therefore jurisdiction&need not be&proven.

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Ice · #4 10-04-2003, 10:27 AM

About time you joined the party.

By the way, thanks for giving me jurisdiction.

Note:& You posted, therefore you agreed, therefore jurisdiction&need not be&proven.

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#5 10-05-2003, 03:06 PM

Ice

Trouble is it looks like no one else is interested. They just want to see you And I argue about twisting arms.

Jim

#6 10-05-2003, 03:06 PM

Ice

Trouble is it looks like no one else is interested. They just want to see you And I argue about twisting arms.

Jim

#7 10-05-2003, 04:06 PM

Greetings.

Thank You for the post. I am interested in the jurisdiction issue, I just want to do (due) "diligence" and research a few things about the subject so I can reply with some reasonable understanding.

#8 10-05-2003, 04:06 PM

Greetings.

Thank You for the post. I am interested in the jurisdiction issue, I just want to do (due) "diligence" and research a few things about the subject so I can reply with some reasonable understanding.

#9 10-05-2003, 04:23 PM

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Some of the information within the article entitiled&"The Silver Bulletin" has me cross-referencin' a lot of stuff...

Even going back to the post about citizenship. It makes one have to determine&their nationality status&as it applies to constitution or treaty.

How would/could a fiction have jurisdiction over any entity other than an "individual" i.e. STRAWMAN? There needs to be a consistant determination. All human beings and/or people are all born from the earth, unless they are "test-tube" babies or clones of some kind. Outside of the illusion, how can one be a 14th amendment citizen,&California citizen, Korean citizen or citizen of anywhere else but an "Earth" citizen?&

#10 10-05-2003, 04:23 PM

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Some of the information within the article entitiled&"The Silver Bulletin" has me cross-referencin' a lot of stuff...

Even going back to the post about citizenship. It makes one have to determine&their nationality status&as it applies to constitution or treaty.

How would/could a fiction have jurisdiction over any entity other than an "individual" i.e. STRAWMAN? There needs to be a consistant determination. All human beings and/or people are all born from the earth, unless they are "test-tube" babies or clones of some kind. Outside of the illusion, how can one be a 14th amendment citizen,&California citizen, Korean citizen or citizen of anywhere else but an "Earth" citizen?&