Court Cites re: A4V & Discharge and Dishonor of an Indictment

nana · #1 04-25-2004, 03:04 PM

Hey Research Friends:

If someone has been indicted and they have A4V the Indictment and return it for settlement and closure to the court of the clerk and the judge, and they dishonor?& What is recourse if they continue with the case and all you've done, in honor, is dishonored?

Looking for court decisions that can validate the actions of a man who has been indicted and remains in honor throughout the proceedings.

Any suggestions will be appreciated.& Thanx a bunch.

nana

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Jerseee · #2 04-25-2004, 08:56 PM

Nana,

How about asking the court to prove jurisdiction. the indictment is not the issue, subject matter jurisdiction is.

Ice · #3 04-25-2004, 09:06 PM

As I have stated many times before, using that sort of “A4V” does not work with the court.& Listen to those that claim to have used it when they discuss their particular case and you will hear them use court procedure and Law.& I do not believe that you will find any court cases in which the “A4V” issue is even discussed.& You may find cases in which such documents have been put into the file… but even those cases are won or lost based on LAW, not “A4V”.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o

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wirlwind · #4 04-26-2004, 04:53 PM

What is A4V?& I may sound stupid, but, I have no idea what that is.& We need a dictionary section to define these abbreviations.& The I wopn't have to sound so stupid.&

Donna

Ice · #5 04-26-2004, 05:38 PM

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nana · #6 05-01-2004, 09:24 PM

Thanx all for your input.& Will pass the word on.

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nana;)

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charlene · #7 05-02-2004, 09:14 AM

On the topic of Acceptance for value.

The paper work can be introduced into evidence only if

you are the Holder in Due Course, I should say Registered holder in due course. The presement is ammended to your ucc1 filing, and you register it with your SOS.

After you receive file number back on document, you have now become the registered holder, This gives you the superior claim,which has to be settled first.

That is why all AFV's always should be one million dollars plus face value of document. The one mill is their bond and you must stay above their &bond. yes, this paper work should be introduced as evid into your file #, making sure the judge gets a copy. This is what AFV is all about, It gives you the Superior Claim,which has to be settled first. I hope this helps some. Charlene

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seeker · #8 05-02-2004, 10:36 AM

charlene;

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Could you explain that a bit more?& Are you filing against your STRAWMAN or against the company that you sent the A4V to?

Thanks!

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Pat

charlene · #9 05-02-2004, 12:35 PM

When you receive any type of presement, accept it for value. Make copies of orignal document. send one copy to SOS office -ammend it to your ucc you are now registered Holder in Due Course. Send origanal document back to the presenter after you AFV. Never keep the original document-it shows ownership on their side- You are not filing against&your strawman/women You have already given everything to him when you filed your first ucc1& You are filing a claim against whomever sent you the document in question--It gives you the secret thing most court cases are won on-WHOM HAS STANDING- What you have done in this is you put a lein on them,

The court must rule in your favor because you registered your lein with the SOS and you have noticed the sender of the document that you hold the ball -it is your game and they cannot do anything- it freezes the action. I have done this and so far no one has taken me to court,they know they cannnot afford to satisfy my lein, which is always more cash then they are trying to collect. It will go full circle they will pass it on to another collector etc. They will exhaust all of their remidies. I also did a BOH on them, one s=was sent to a lawyer for colletion, I noticed him that he was not registered with the SOS in Ohio and could not do business in this state. They were sent a copy of my registered acceptance,that was three months ago, and nothing from them after all there idle threats etc. Accepting for value shuts them down. And it stops any further action on their part.

This is why when a ucc1 is filed you must ammend on a three all of your credit cards with numbers etc, charge cards. If they are not ammended to your one you cannot accept for value. I hope this helps. I just find it a lot quicker which can give you leverage do research etc.

I hope this helps you.& People in Ohio have been having a pretty tuff time filing with Blackwells office, I know one whom works in his office and it is the wording you are& useing on your forms. Do not use cracking the codes version of ucc it is not worded corectley.

Charlene

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nralien · #10 05-02-2004, 12:56 PM

charlene

Can you share with us the wording you use on your forms?

nralien