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Originally Posted by mrg
idknow:
(With respect):
(Just questions, not gauntlets)
Does one become an Esquire prior to becoming a member of the Bar?
(In fact, when, and how exactly does one become an "Esquire?")
When one is an officer of the court does not one take a binding oath of office to uphold the Constitution(s)?
Are there lawyers who are Esquires who are not officers of the court and not required to take an oath of office?
When exactly do "lawyers" take the Oath of Office?
When does one actually become a lawyer or attorney?
In fact, what exactly is a "lawyer," and, what is an "attorney?"
Do "attorneys" take an oath of Office?
Are "attorneys" Officers of the court?
Are attorneys lawyers?
Are lawyers attorneys?
The constitution more than restricts, it binds the process of government, as well as those who are sworn, bonded, and bound as servants in that process.
(Lawyers take a constitutionally binding oath of office, and are officers pursuant to the "judicial Power," unless I am mistaken.)
Creator cannot be subject to creature.
Author cannot be subject authority.
I do not understand the relationship of your post to the quotes of mine, did I say something wrong?
I was only asking David Merrill for a little more info re his post.
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Shoonra, I cannot comprehend your question (which I quote):
"How could someone be trained and experienced in the law without having a "title of nobility"?
Do you mean that those "trained and experienced in the law" do, and in fact, must have a "title of nobility," and cannot be "trained and experienced in the law without having a 'title of nobility'?"
If so, from whence cometh that requisite title of nobility?
This requisite "title of nobility" by definition according to your sources is what?
What is meant, in fact, by "trained and experienced in the law?"
Is there a difference between being "trained and experienced in the law," and being "trained and experienced in the [color of] law?"
Is there a difference between being "trained and experienced in the law," and being trained and experienced in the "statutory"?
What is "law," anyway?
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Ok, at the moment that I wrote the reply that you're wondering about, my thought was more to consider and remind all that the constitutional empowerments and restrictions apply when an oath is given to a duly selected servant, as chosen by the people, or appointed by one who is allowed to appoint.
It wasnt to dispute what had been previuosly written in any post.
Sorry that I left out enough context to be clear.
I'll endeavor to write more completely
As for your questions regarding when a lawyer this and that, heh, I'm just learning how not to become a twister.
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