Please Help!

Hi everyone:


I am the wife of goldphoenix (Paul) who is a member of this forum.& I know that he was posting here regarding the problems he is having with child support.& Some of you may be familiar with what is going on with him.


Well, tonight, the sheriff arrested him saying that he has to pay $612 or spend 30 days in jail.& He has papers that someone (I believe from this forum) sent him that he would like me to serve on the agents involved on his behalf.& These are: (1) Notice of Prohibited Governmental Activity& (2)& Notice of Lack of Jurisdiction& (3)& Directive for Immediate Removal from Foreign Jurisdiction and (4)& Demand for Remedy Required by Law


This is a little complicated, since two states are involved, and I want to make certain that all proper parties are served.& Does anyone have experience with these papers?


Thank you in advance for your help!


&

summer69,


It will take somebody more experienced than I to respond to the technical aspects of your post.& However, I want to offer support as you go through this trying time.& Goldphoenix is a fighter and it does not surprise me that they are trying to stop him.


May God bless you and keep you and your family safe.


Sara-Jane

summer69 right now the sheriff's think that they have goldphoenix but really they don't. and the paper work you have now, you should hold on to it and he can use it later. see if he can bail out or better yet have him bond himself and the system where he's at.





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[john4na]

Hi Summer69,



I would not have him Bond out with FRN's I would submit a bond based on our Private exemption from John Snow.

I would like to see the papers you were sent and I could look at them.

My email is john@cs4u.com

To explain a little more, From my understanding when you bond out with FRN's you have just then bonded the case for the prosecutors, and you became surity, When you use your private exemption you have used your private remedy to get out of jail.

Supposedly this creates the State as the surity because they are the only one using a debt note (FRN's).

Hope this adds some usful explanation.

Good luck our prayers are with you both,

John

Thanks for your replies.



My understanding is that there is no bond/bail. The $612 they want is supposedly for child support. If this is paid, isn't it an admission that he owes the rest of the money that they want?



I can't email the docs since I don't have a scanner and they are approximately 15 pages in length.



My confusion is that I don't know to whom these should be served. It lists chief law enforcement officer and agent of the prosecuting or demanding county, state or country. I don't know if this means the arresting officer . It also says to serve the petitioner and again, I don't know if this is CSE or what. As far as I know he is charged with criminal contempt and there will be no hearing.



Thanks again

Why isn't there a bail/bond? I just heard on Liberty Forum that a person cannot be held without a bond hearing.



Go to http://wwfar.com/lfarchives.html and listen to the archived radio show in MARCH with guest Pat Shannon (bottom of March's archives) The show is about the murder of Gordon Kahl and his son Yori who was blamed for killing two U.S. Marshall's (which his father killed in defense of Yori)



Fast forward the show 50 minutes and 57 seconds and listen to the man calling in from Texas talk about a bail bond. It's only two minutes in length, but you'll get the idea...

30 days in jail for $612 child support? That sounds a little outrageious to me. Are you sure he's not in jail for traffic violations?

Originally Posted by Etyrnal

30 days in jail for $612 child support? That sounds a little outrageious to me. Are you sure he's not in jail for traffic violations?

Actually, they claim he owes much more than that. $612 is just what they want now.

[seeker]

I sympathize. My daughter and I are working on a remedy for her fiance who is having problems with child support. This appears to be a rising problem as more men become aware that they have rights and do NOT hav to act as sheeple in this matter.

The simplest solution has been forfeit already, I would assume. And that would be to REMAIN SILENT. This includes giving them his name, and moving about only with their absolute asistance. In other words, you offer nothing. It is my understanding that they cannot process without having your name, nor can they charge or hold you. One of you guys who are more schooled in this matter can expand here. (Victoria-Joy at angelwiththeinkwell explains this rather well)

Also, what about the Constitution that states no man can be imprisioned for a debt? And did they present teh appropriate, certified, validated documents?

I think trying to do this type of thing without having indepth and first-hand knowledge of exactly WHAT your are doing could be detrimental. It may be necessary to do as suggested and bond him out/use his exemption so he is on the outside and free to use his learning and wits.



Stay strong.

Seeker

[Jerseee]

summer69,



I believe a writ of habeas corpus would solve this problem. Private message Kgod and explain this to him. Also let him know that I referred you to him.



He went through a similar situation and did a writ and was released. The wording scared the bejesus out of the prosecution.